Fake or real toning on this Peace Dollar?

Trooper · February 12, 2004 11:43AM

Simple question.....

USMC_6115 · February 12, 2004 11:45AM

It looks good to me Tom, nice and even. But, I'm by far from an expert on toning...I like it.

Russ · February 12, 2004 11:45AM

If it is AT, it is very well done. How's the luster on the coin, and what does the reverse look like?

Edited to add: If it is the real deal, and the coin is BU, you have a big chunk of change on your hands. Rainbow target toning is very rare on Peace Dollars.

Russ, NCNE

nankraut · February 12, 2004 11:46AM

FAKE!

Trooper · February 12, 2004 11:46AM

Only pic I have

Russ · February 12, 2004 11:48AM

<< <i>FAKE! >>

nankraut,

You ever see a toned coin that you didn't think was fake?

Trooper,

How is the luster, and what does the reverse look like? Fully lustrous and an un-toned reverse would be good signs. Or, is this a coin you don't have in hand?

Russ, NCNE

Russ · February 12, 2004 11:52AM

Well, I guess you must think it's real since you just BINed it.

Russ, NCNE

jbsteven · February 12, 2004 12:05PM

it seems a little fishy to me

nankraut · February 12, 2004 12:16PM

Russ: Well...it's true that I'm just not much of a fan of toning, mostly because there are so many coins being artifically altered and sold at outrageously high prices to unknowledgeable, gullible collectors. This coin? To me, the dark brown, then dark blue, then lavender toning from the rim inward looks like what you'd see from heating silver at higher-to-lower temperatures, by applying heat along the edge while rotating the coin.
JMHO, of course.

Dave99B · February 12, 2004 12:19PM

I'm fairly certain it's AT. Doesn't look right...

Dave

Russ · February 12, 2004 12:23PM

<< <i>To me, the dark brown, then dark blue, then lavender toning from the rim inward >>

I think you need a new monitor. It's not brown, it's green, and the color sequence on the coin is in the correct order for natural toning. I'm not saying that it is, it is simply too difficult to tell from that crappy image. But, I don't think we can automatically write this one off.

Russ, NCNE

Coinosaurus · February 12, 2004 12:29PM

If it's natural it's unlike any other Peace dollar I've seen.......they just don't tone like this.........

Here's my suggestion - go get an AU Peace dollar and a blow torch and see if you can "duplicate" what you have here........

kamehameha00 · February 12, 2004 12:35PM

AT,don't look right.

airplanenut · February 12, 2004 12:36PM

I agree with others--it just doesn't look right... like Tonecoin2003 with a little less *umph*

Trooper · February 12, 2004 12:37PM

Torch it like this

Cam40 · February 12, 2004 12:43PM

i figured someone would say the Peace buck is a liver of sulphur job.
liver of sulphur is used to `antique or add patina to` coins or metal objects.

robertpr · February 12, 2004 12:44PM

It looks like it started out as natural, but was accellerated somehow --- perhaps fake'n'bake? Anyway I'd say AT..but it *could* be true NT by some fluke.

Cam40 · February 12, 2004 12:48PM

i,m leaning towards AT because the toneing isnt very uniform or concentric.

Trooper · February 12, 2004 12:49PM

Well, this was the responce from the seller when I asked if he had a reverse pic of the coin

<<<<HI, SORRY I DONT HAVE A PICTURE OF THE REVERSE. IT TOO IS TONED. THE
REVERSE IS DARKER BUT WHEN YOU TILT IT YOU CAN SEE BLUES AND GREENS. A
REAL
PRETTY COIN. THANKS AGAIN, Dave>>>>

Got me on this one. Will have to post a pic when it arrives

FC57Coins · February 12, 2004 12:56PM

That coin isn't right. For one thing, when coins tone naturally, you tend to see more of a blending of colors. The sense I get with this coin is that the process was rushed. Sorry - I wouldn't fool with it.

Peaceman · February 12, 2004 1:27PM

It's worth it's silver content.... that's it.... Peace $ just do not tone like this..... I saw this one up on ebay.... question them where they got it and wait for the song and dance.....