Lincolns graded-- FBL, full steps, or torch???

route66

If they ever grade Lincolns like Jeffersons [full steps] Franklins [bell lines] or Roosevelts [full torch] What would be the criterior for grading Lincolns with what added description?? Just looking towards the future. You make more money early than later. JMHO Steve. Sorry, I didn't really know how to pose the question in the title. with not much room.

darktone

Full Lincoln on the reverse?

coolkarma

For the wheat backs, I'd say "full bow tie" for the obverse and "full O" in One on the reverse.

MacCoin

whats wrong with R RB B

Stooge

A long time ago in a galaxy far far away....I heard that maybe...and it was just spectulation and rumor that PCGS was going to further designate the Lincolns with full steps for the reverse.

I couldn't tell you where I heard this or picked it up, but there you have it.

Later,
Paul B. Gunsallus

route66

There is nothing wrong with r-rb-b but other series go further and I was just wondering if eventually Lincolns would follow suit. Some coins are better than others in the same grade.
steve

LovethoseIndians

This is the kind of "sh&t" that is ruining the hobby long term

cladking

The memorials often lack detail in the steps and it is frequently the
center of the bottom steps which are last to be formed. Finding some
dates with a complete bottom step can be difficult.

The reverse Lincoln doesn't always show up well even on well-struck
specimens.

flaminio

I really think they need to get away from all these various "FSB" "FH" "FBL" nonsensical terms, and just use a generic "FS" -- Full Strike. This appellation could be applied to any coin that exhibits "full-strike" characteristics. How that may be defined from coin to coin may vary, but it could be used for any coin.

EvilMCT

<< <i>This is the kind of "sh&t" that is ruining the hobby long term >>



LOL! Would have worded it a bit differently, but my sentiments as well. In all of the different grading guides that I have access to, there are no criteria listed for FBL, FSB, FS, et al.

Ken

cladking

<< <i>I really think they need to get away from all these various "FSB" "FH" "FBL" nonsensical terms, and just use a generic "FS" -- Full Strike. This appellation could be applied to any coin that exhibits "full-strike" characteristics. How that may be defined from coin to coin may vary, but it could be used for any coin. >>



Ideally the grade of a coin would actually tell someone what its condition is which
would include its striking characteristics but collectors tend to balk at this concept
because we prefer a convenient way to price coins. What we are left with is a lack
of information so anything which tells us more about the coin is beneficial. Certainly
one can get a clearer picture between an MS-65 and an MS-66 if he knows that the
65 is FB or FH.

In some coins there are virtually no specimens which are truly full strike. But if "full
strike" were simply defined as 99% full then I'd agree and this term could be applied
to any series. There are some series which typically come fairly well struck and strike
characteristics are much less important to those collectors.

Dennis88

Full bearded Lincoln???

clackamas

Full "O"NE or shoulder for wheats. I don't think it will ever happen. There does not seem to be the collector demand for it. It also seems like the grading companies already take the stike into consideration when grading so a designation would be pointless. For instance if you don't have a complete "O"NE on the reverse of w wheatie forget about 66 much less 67.

route66

Maybe this sh*t is ruining the hobby, but it's not going to go away. You can't uninvent the atomic bomb. The truth of the matter is that there are coins that look sharper or better than other coins in the slabbed holder with the same grade. When you are buying unseen, it helps to know this. Franklin half buyers aren't complaining. Registry sets aren't helping the hobby either [just raising prices and building egos] but they're here to stay JMHO Steve

route66

Clackamas. Thanks for teaching me something. I'll remember that about the ONE. Steve