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Guess the grade on this Barber Half and win nothing - GRADE,PRIZE AND WINNER ADDED
relayer
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I took this coin and laid it on the ground in the back yard. It's white, not toned.
The colors you see are : silver - my camera, black the lens and eye piece, and blue is the sky.
What grade AND designation did PCGS give this coin?
Each guess wins the same prize ( nothing ), other than the pride in showing your skills.
The colors you see are : silver - my camera, black the lens and eye piece, and blue is the sky.
What grade AND designation did PCGS give this coin?
Each guess wins the same prize ( nothing ), other than the pride in showing your skills.
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Grade Presented: MS64
Don't tell me I'm wrong, for I know I am. Rather, just say "you're not even close".
If I don't try my hand at these things, how will I learn?
Added: by the pic I'd almost have to say it's proof-like.
On second thought: PR MS65 , so color me stupid
In fact, I would be more inclined to say PR62 on that piece, because of the hairlines, but it's hard for me to tell what's on the holder and what's on the coin.
It's tough to image an all-white coin like that, ain't it? I have yet to get a picture I like of my white PR63 CAM.
Tyler
You're probably right that relayer's has a higher technical grade, though. It's not a CAM but it maybe higher in numerical grade than my Benson piece. Those probably were holder scuffs I saw in his pic.
I missed that part where he mentioned "designation".
The coin appears to be a Proof, not Cameo, but the lighting throws me off and I see slide marks which could be on the holder. There is something going on above the O in God, and I can't tell if its on the holder or the coin.
Based on the photograph, I'd say its a PR 63.
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I have lots of nothing to give away, so let's see if the daytime crowd has any input.
Besides, there may be a prize awaiting...
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no apparent cameo contrast.
If I win, can the absolutely nothing prize be sent to me right away.
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Russ, NCNE
The first thing I notice is that the coin appears to be an obvious Proof, as opposed to a business strike/mint state piece. It has mirror surfaces unlike those which a business strike example would have. If the coin were being offered on Ebay or elsewhere and had not been certified, I might worry about whether it was merely a (no-grade) cleaned or polished business strike. But, I do not have that concern in this case.
Now, starting from a perfect Proof 70 and working down from there, here are the obvious imperfections that should result in points being deducted:
Obverse: It appears to have light horizontal hairlines across cheek and upper neck; minor ticks/abrasions behind Ms. Liberty's head; cuts at rim near 11:00; continuation of hairlines in front of MS. Liberty's face and neck; unsightly haze/discoloration or light staining on Liberty's face, at the date going clock-wise to the third star and around "GOD WE".
The noted hairlines might look better/less obvious or worse/more obvious in person but, before I turn the coin over and look at the reverse, it already has enough imperfections/distractions so that even if the reverse is perfect, I will not grade the coin higher than PR64. And, I don't see the required contrast to be thinkig about assigning it the "cameo" designation. I also remember that this date is rarely seen with noticeable contrast.
Now, if anyone is still awake I will get to the reverse
Based on all of the above, my final grade is PR63. Even if I am incorrect (and it could be by more than a point) I hope that this public thought process/analysis has been helpful to some.
Here is my indoors picture of the coin, which everybody would have guessed AU-58 if I showed it. It is actually a white coin
It was in a NGC PR62 holder, which I crossed over to PCGS where it stayed in a PR62 holder.
LordM was the first to come up with PR62 and since he is easy to give a prize to, I added this as the Grand Prize (PM me with your address). Even though he had really said 3 different grades, he used his southern style to get around to the correct grade, so he wins metal with a hole in it.
Everybody who read Mark's anaylsis wins an education in grading (even though he was off by a point) but he was the only one to find the spot on the reverse.
And for all the others who said PR62 afterwards, you win the knowledge that your grading was right on.
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Russ, NCNE
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Thanks also CoinGuy. I appreciate you sharing your thought process. I find that very helpful.
ARE YOU SAYING I WON SOMETHING?
Holy, er, I mean Holey medals, Batman!
Funny thing, I happened across this thread, opened it to see what the grade was, and scrolled down.
I was gonna compliment you on that sweet medal- love the reverse design!
Are you sayin' that's MY sweet medal?
Thanks!
Normally I will not do medals on my vest, but I'll happily find a place for that, if you really wanna send it to me.
I thought the prize was nothing. Oh yeah, I guess I got some nothing, too.
I thought PR63 in about 5 seconds following your exact line of reasoning. Scary
<< <i>I took this coin and laid it on the ground in the back yard. It's white, not toned. >>
And PCGS slabs are clear.
Which means you have some mighty white-lookin' grass or dirt in your backyard.
Showin' off the medal on the Darkside- thanks again!