1977 Catfi$h

downgoesfrazier

Sold tonight for 426.00. I'm glad I submitted my own. The last two have sold for an average of 360 bucks. I've been offered 400 for mine from another collector. I wonder if we'll see a bunch of Hunters submitted on the grading special. I think the SMR is...there is no SMR for it. He's a common I guess

dgf

cmcclelland

Phil,

In your opinion, is the Catfish prone to centering problems or print defects or something, or is it just a classic Yankee card that hasn't had a lot of 9's submitted yet?

marz

<< <i>Phil,

In your opinion, is the Catfish prone to centering problems or print defects or something, or is it just a classic Yankee card that hasn't had a lot of 9's submitted yet? >>



Hey CM! check out my incredible PSA 9 77 Topps set!!! I have all of $60 invested into it! My lunch money for a month! You like?




http://www.psacard.com/new_set_registry/display_cards.chtml?rsetid=14643&alltime=yes&requesttimeout=9999&rank=none&tied=0

purelyPSA

DGF - in the racks that produced the Wayne Garrett you liked, I found a perfectly centered Hunter...however, the paper that held the photo didn't get placed against the stock correctly, and there was a separation that ran the whole way across the card (and a couple of other cards too that were in the same racks). What a shame. It'd have 9'd easy too because the picture quality was great. C'est la vie.

downgoesfrazier

Colt,
The Hunter is prone to severe printing and registration problems. Centered copies can be had--although it is challenging.
By the way...you'll love this, my wife and I had twins last week and the boy is named Coltrane. We call him "Colt"!
When are you going to get around to pulling cards for me? lol

PSA,
Yeah, that Garrett was the bomb! That's one of the really nice-lookin' cards in the Expos set (the entire set for that matter).

As for Caramels/Marz set for $60...you must be getting free grading, huh? At less than 3% that's not really a set yet, now is it?...you get what you pay for sometimes...

dgf

GoSoxBoSox

DGF,

Welcome to the new baby crowd with me and Schmitty. I didn't have twins but I am a twin. I have a twin sister.

You'll have tons of fun with two once the 3 hour feedings spread out. Good luck.. You'll need it.

Tom

downgoesfrazier

Thanks GoBo. The thing that complicates here is that I have two boys that just turned 3 & 1 respectively. I don't want to say I'm tired, but I called the guy at the tollbooth "sweetie" Sunday night. He handed me back .50 and I chime in with "thanks sweetie"...what the @#! is going on with my brain!...


...not that there's anything wrong with that.




dgf

marz

As for Caramels/Marz set for $60...you must be getting free grading, huh? At less than 3% that's not really a set yet, now is it?...you get what you pay for sometimes...

Hey! you forgot my "Flex Wheeler" handle! I do get grading for free! it's easy! I bid $10 on piles of PSA 9's of this set and some other 70's sets and win .00002% thus the grading ios essentially free~ Or is it the card that free? Anyway look! I got a hall of famer for $10 !!!

aro13

dgf - Congratulations on the twins!

onegaucho

Funny to see a discussion on Wayne Garrett.

I used to work with him. He's in the golf course irrigation business and is based Florida (the last I heard).

It was cool to talk baseball with him. The 1 question I always ask of former ball players is who was the hardest thrower of the baseball they ever faced... the answer is always a quick one: Nolan Ryan (Wayne quickly justified it by saying he was on his own team).

downgoesfrazier

Gaucho,
In the business I'm in (Baseball Academy Director, coaching, scouting, etc.) I meet many former major league players and umpires (I still can't stand them) and this question will come up from time to time. I have had many different answers. They range from the obvious--Nolan Ryan to the slightly less obvious--Bob Welch. But the one name that appears on more lists of guys in their mid to late 50's is James Rodney Richard. As soon as someone mentions him the conversation mutates into a tell-all about J.R. and by the end of the evening he takes on mythical proportions. My favorite story was told by, if memory serves, Randy Hundley. Guys would send their gloves to Houston for JR's bullpen catchers to use for breaking them in quickly. Priceless.

dgf

miami3

I probably own 17-20 of the 77 Catfish cards and I dont think that one of them would get a 9, let alone and 8.

They all either have week corners or they are badly off center.

I think that its one of the toughest cards to find in top grade in the set, right up there with the 77' Richie Zisk.

downgoesfrazier

483...TOUGH! One of the 10 toughest in the set...but not THE toughest.

dgf

oldguy

to bad

downgoesfrazier

The53Kid

Frazier,

So what would you say are the top 10 toughest cards in the set?

Thanks!

NickM

frazier - who do the guys from the pre-Ryan era pick?

Nick

downgoesfrazier

53,
I'm a paranoid loon. I just can't bring myself to post that until I get the thing done.

NickM,
I don't really know. Most of the guys I deal with these days are from the late 60's through today. The coolest guys are the umpires. I've had opportunities to enjoy adult beverages with Steve Ripley, Joe West, Mark Hirschbeck among others and their stories about pain in the arse managers (Bobby Cox & Bobby Valentine) and catchers are priceless. They can really shape the way you view games from the stands. I know I've played with and coached some real pieces of work--it's nice to know that major-leaguers are no different. As for hard throwers, there are some fringe guys but the king has to be Bob Feller. It's the obvious choice, but most likely the correct one. The dude just flat-out brought it. There were probably guys who could match him for a trip through the order but precious few could toss 120 pearls at better than 92. That's what makes Clemens so tough. 96 with a split in the 8th inning with 115 pitches under your belt is insane!

dgf