O.K. Guys. I have to say that I am really PI$$ED............

JMOORE · January 31, 2004 7:55AM

I try to be generous with this kind of stuff and send something really nice that a collector would enjoy. But how would you feel if the item that you just sent to someone in the swap was immediately put up for sale on eBay??

That is exactly what asnovell has done with the 1957 PCGS MS66 Toned Franklin Half Dollar that I sent to him.

This is a link to the coin on my web site that I had for sale............
Look at the "Item #" 5557368, That is the PCGS Cert Number.

This Is A Link To His eBay Auction..............
Look At The Cert Number On The Slab.... 5557368

And the worst part of it is I did not even get a "Thank You" from him.

Sorry, this is the last swap for me.

Jim

1jester · January 31, 2004 8:10AM

I'm sorry to hear about this, Jim.

JimC · January 31, 2004 10:44AM

I can say that all coins/items I have received will and are being kept. It is sad that one will make a trade to immediately turn around and sell that which was given, but you have to remember that each individual does not walk the same as you and yes some are driven by the almighty dollar. I have given and received but I would hope those that give do not think I would turn around and immediately sell that or those items sent to me. I look upon the item sent that the individual took time and thought to give that which they themselves would like to keep.

One bad apple does not spoil the bunch.

Jim

Boom · February 1, 2004 1:24AM

Jim, maybe he already had one -and decided to sell it! Just blow it off. Don't let it bug you. Actually once you gave it to him he could so whatever he wanted to with it right? Don't take it so personal. I don't like seeing you so disappointed...just let it go!

GaCoinGuy · February 1, 2004 1:33AM

JMoore, I hate to see stuff like that.......I still have all but one coin that was ever sent to me in a swap..and that one is in the pocket of my oldest nephew who wanted to have a 100+ year old coin to carry in his pocket like my Morgan pocketpiece.

JMOORE · February 1, 2004 2:14AM

Correct me if I am wrong but I just assumed that these swaps where not intended for this purpose.

I view it as something where we can get together with fellow Forum members and have some fun, meet new friends, exchange "Gifts" with each other, etc.

maybe he already had one -and decided to sell it!

Boom, if that was the case then common courtesy would be to send me a PM saying something like this:

Hey Jim, Thanks for the nice Franklin Half Dollar. I'm afraid that I already have one so if you don't mind I will probably trade it for something that I don't have or put it up for sale on eBay.

I would be OK with that. But the thing that really bugs me is the fact the he didn't even so much as send me a PM letting me know that he received the coin, let alone to say Thank You. Imagine my surprise when I saw it listed for sale on eBay.

Boom · February 1, 2004 8:56AM

I see your point!

JrGMan2004 · February 1, 2004 10:45AM

Sorry to hear that Jim... I've recieved a few gifts from board members, and they will never leave my collection, except under extrenuating circumstances which i would hope to avoid... and I'm EXTREMELY greatful to those people, and to you Jim, for your overflowing generosity! Thank you Jim!

canadiancoinguy · February 1, 2004 11:02AM

Things just don't always go the way we'd like them to...

oldguy · February 1, 2004 9:32PM

that's not nice

TRADERBOBZ · February 2, 2004 1:34AM

hi mr moore tanner hendricks here i have to say that guy is not nice also the coins you sent me for my birthday will never leave my lock box thank you so very much there great i am home sick today from school

coinhead1 · February 2, 2004 2:30AM

<< <i>hi mr moore tanner hendricks here i have to say that guy is not nice also the coins you sent me for my birthday will never leave my lock box thank you so very much there great i am home sick today from school >>

You too?

coinlieutenant · February 2, 2004 10:54AM

Jim,

That would disappoint me as well. I have a rule that any coin given to me as a gift never gets sold...EVER...

Well, maybe if I was homeless and starving on the street ... but not until then.

Just make a mental note and dont swap with him any more... but dont stop all together.

Vr.,
John

indianabyron · February 2, 2004 11:22AM

I never give stuff away I get from giveaways. Now Ive never been in a swap ive thought about it but I still wouldnt give away something I got. Well this guy sounds like this is what he had in mind all along.

Byron

oldguy · February 2, 2004 8:44PM

not nice

asnovell · February 3, 2004 11:48AM

This was not intended to offend. I am not into Franklin halves and was selling to get funds to purchase something I wanted/needed. I didn't know that this was looked down upon as I am new to the swap. I am since cancelled the auction.. My apologies..

asnovell · February 3, 2004 11:51AM

No this is not what I had in mind all along.. Please do not judge..

BamaCollector · February 8, 2004 3:39AM

Jim,

@s. I think that the majourity of folks here are credible and honest and the age old saying "1 bad apple can ruin the whole bunch" seems to get a whole lot more attention than the many here who conduct swaps ethically and don't use them to add to their product lines at the auction sites. We need to keep the honest, caring folks like you here so please don't let the asses run you off!

Peter

kamehameha00 · February 8, 2004 6:19AM

Don't let it get to you,some people are just...

asnovell · February 8, 2004 7:02AM

Again alot of very judgemental people here.. Doesn't any of these people have anything else better to do.. These people are the ones acting like A$$es.. Grow up people, it's a frickin coin!!!

ealandg · February 8, 2004 1:55PM

Please don't let this get to you. It sounds like the person is more interested in collecting specific items.

LucyBop · February 9, 2004 8:07AM

I have given away plenty to many many people here..... and I will continue to do so....

and they have my blessings to do what ever they want to with the items......

But, I always hope they will keep them, or trade them up for say the same coin in a better grade....

and remember my kindness......

LucyBop · February 9, 2004 8:11AM

<< <i>Again alot of very judgemental people here.. Doesn't any of these people have anything else better to do.. These people are the ones acting like A$$es.. Grow up people, it's a frickin coin!!!
>>

your responses started out ok then this......

your the A$$ here, avoid all other give-aways.......

asnovell · February 9, 2004 10:16AM

Please see this post

Jim,

@s. I think that the majourity of folks here are credible and honest and the age old saying "1 bad apple can ruin the whole bunch" seems to get a whole lot more attention than the many here who conduct swaps ethically and don't use them to add to their product lines at the auction sites. We need to keep the honest, caring folks like you here so please don't let the asses run you off!

Peter.

Please do not advise me what to do regarding this matter. Please take the time, since you seem you have alot of it, and read the entire thread..

LucyBop · February 9, 2004 1:44PM

snovell, avoid the give aways...............

LucyBop · February 9, 2004 2:09PM

on this thread snovell sez he's 12 years old:

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=253653

yet hes been selling on ebay since 1998.....

JMOORE · February 10, 2004 4:17AM

@s.

I agree... And I will continue giving, just no more "swaps" for me.

and they have my blessings to do what ever they want to with the items......

Lucy,

In most cases I would feel the same, but please see my previous post in this thread as to why this one go me so Pi$$ed.

Quote: I would be OK with that. But the thing that really bugs me is the fact the he didn't even so much as send me a PM letting me know that he received the coin, let alone to say Thank You. Imagine my surprise when I saw it listed for sale on eBay.

on this thread snovell sez he's 12 years old:

Yes, I noticed that too, but did not say anything..........

Jim

JMOORE · February 10, 2004 4:24AM

I guess this whole thing boils down to Common Courtesy. Is it really to much trouble to say "Thank You"?

CoinAddict · February 10, 2004 9:48AM

Jim, It looks like asnovell's son was signing up for your giveaway for the Franklin set. If you look in his sig line you and profile will find that the forum account is listed as Andrew Snovell. It was probably his father that signed up for the coin swap. Just thought I would point this out instead of you getting mad at a child.

asnovell · February 10, 2004 10:10AM

Man you really have too much time on your hands boppy.. This is my son who is 12. If all coin collectors were like this there would a lot fewer. This is not even your concern and involves a coin that I received in a swap that I did not need so placed on Ebay. When I found out that Jmoore was crying I cancelled the auction. As far as not thanking him, after the nasty post he left I emailed and apologized for this.. Please get on with your business, or better yet start from the beginning of the thread and learn the facts for once.. People there are more important things to concern yourselves with. Jmoore please send your address as I do not want this coin. It has caused too much trouble over something so petty!!

on this thread snovell sez he's 12 years old:

http://forums.collectors.com/messageview.cfm?catid=31&threadid=253653

yet hes been selling on ebay since 1998.....

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LucyBop · February 10, 2004 2:20PM

could be, I figured as much.... but really, your credibility is zero..........

i still wonder had your son of won, how quickly this set would have went to auction......

asnovell · February 10, 2004 10:32PM

My credibility is zero??!! Who are you???!! You're showing how much growing up you need to do?? You jumped on this thread and it's not even your concern. Grow up and go sit under that car instead of on top of it and do us all a favor!!

LucyBop · February 11, 2004 2:42AM

your the kind of person that makes these giveaways and swaps very un-fun....

your credibilty is zero.......

the allmighty dollar is your calling........

but there are good people here...... characters like you, come and go......

JrGMan2004 · February 11, 2004 3:37AM

assnovell: Digging your own grave by your insults... Lucy has earned my trust and respect, and a great MANY people on this forum will join in with me in saying that Lucy is a class-act. However, you've shown your self to be the complete opposite... I have recieved coins from several members on the forums, and have never once failed to say thank you... that's just common sense, and I'm 17... hate to think what age level your common sense has developed to... Anyways, you're just digging your grave deeper and deeper with your idiocy and insults, and really, anyone here on the forums can jump into a thread. And you have no right to say that it's no one elses' business but yours and Jims, b/c by posting the thread, Jim brought everyone on the forums who wished to participate into it...

asnovell · February 11, 2004 10:00AM

If you look back far enough you will see the insults were directed me by Bop. Thanks for your concern. There is no grave being dug here except everyone rushing to judgement..

asnovell · February 11, 2004 10:02AM

You do not even know me so please grow up and stop the bashing.. This has nothing to do with the "almight dollar".. Grow up. "People like me??". This seems to be another insult, Hmmm.. What's wrong with this picture???

LucyBop · February 11, 2004 10:46AM

come and go.....

asnovell · February 12, 2004 10:32AM

I will be the mature one here and end this right now.. Boy coin collecting is indeed fun..

Wolfy00002 · February 12, 2004 11:50AM

My only question is...

If it is not your interest, why not just save it for another swap, and send it to somebody else?

asnovell · February 12, 2004 11:58PM

That's what I should have done. It would have avoided all of this. When I realized that this was looked down upon I cancelled the auction..

ajia · February 13, 2004 10:57AM

Jim,

Don't give up.

If I read the post right, this was not a swap, it was a give away.
Those things must be tricky because everybody wants something for nothing.
When asnovell states, "I am not into Franklin halves and was selling to get funds to purchase something I wanted/needed." This just shows he didn't want the coin to keep.

If it was really for his son, I think (hope) his son would have kept it.

BUT on the flip side of the coin (pun intended) you have shown us what this board is all about, getting new collectors involved.
WOW, what a coin to send, my hats off to you.

What about a local coin club, they might have yn's that would love that coin?
I know that a 'local' club in LA has a show once a year & gives out 'play money' to the ny's for helping put on the show. At the end of the day there is an auction with the 'money' & coins people have donated. Cool way of having young numismatics work for new coins.

Just a thought,
Augie

asnovell · February 13, 2004 11:25AM

Good call.. That's all I was trying to do.. I apologized and learned my lesson. I alot of heat got started here that I am sorry for, and now I know what it is ok and what is consider not ok.. Andy

sinin1 · February 23, 2004 1:02PM

Jim - I have been impressed with your giveaways

I will always remember the Franklin set that CoinAddict? won - was that a BU set? ($500+?)

BamaCollector · March 1, 2004 4:03AM

Ohhhhh yes, Mr. High & Mighty....I bow to you wishes not to post my comments....dips**t! assnovell, that is

asnovell · March 1, 2004 5:10AM

Wow strong words there Bama!! Dipsh*t

RYK · March 3, 2004 6:00AM

Jim,

While I understand how you feel about this, it is my opinion that once the coin left your possession its fate lied in the hands of asnovell.

I know you have made other collectors happy with your giveaways and for that you should be proud.

Robert

asnovell · March 3, 2004 7:14AM

Amen !!

O.K. Guys. I have to say that I am really PI$$ED............

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