A French Coin I just picked up.

izzy452 · January 31, 2004 5:51AM

I Like these Gold coins

Walt

nwcs · January 31, 2004 7:41AM

Ahh, Napoleon... That's the kind of coin I'd end up buying for my mother. She's a big fan of Napoleon.

cosmicdebris · January 31, 2004 7:56AM

Old gold at that

Philip · February 1, 2004 4:23PM

Who's that Napoleon guy anyway?

elverno · February 1, 2004 6:05PM

Nice one Izzy!

izzy452 · February 1, 2004 8:25PM

Thanks all.
Anyone have a gold sovereign 1902 t o 1910 London mint only, MS , for sale ? Or know where one is at ?

Thanks
Walt

Cruzi · February 1, 2004 8:55PM

Very nice coin.

Edward VII Sovereigns are deceptively difficult to obtain in UNC or better condition and they disappear very quickly when they do show up.

It seems easier to pick up the matte proof than a high grade circulation example.

izzy452 · February 1, 2004 10:12PM

Dont I know it !

Walt

GDJMSP · February 2, 2004 1:37PM

<< <i>I Like these Gold coins

Walt >>

Hey Walt - you keep goin after that English stuff and leave my French coins alone. I got enough competition as it is

Another nice one Walt - you're beginning to make me envious again

izzy452 · February 2, 2004 8:28PM

Hey Doug, Just one more French one. Im looking for a Louie 18th .

You know I have to buy something, those sovereigns are hard to locate.

Take care
Walt

toyonakataro · February 2, 2004 10:08PM

Don't know much about that coin, but I like it. Congrats

XpipedreamR · February 2, 2004 11:56PM

1812???

Couldn't you afford to get a nice new one?

JohnZ · February 3, 2004 1:13AM

That's a beauty, Walt. What are the dimensions on that piece?

izzy452 · February 3, 2004 1:23AM

Thanks John,
Design Specifications
Minted 1809-1815
Gold content 0.1867 oz.
Size 21 mm diameter
By the way you have any luck finding those sovereign ?

Walt

elverno · February 3, 2004 1:26AM

<< <i>Couldn't you afford to get a nice new one? >>

The used ones are a good deal right now! Picked up one from 1811 for less than melt the other day. Go figure...

JohnZ · February 3, 2004 1:28AM

By the way you have any luck finding those sovereigns ?

None whatsoever. I ordered a handful of raw ones from three different dealers and they were ALL harshly cleaned.

I sent them all back.

izzy452 · February 3, 2004 1:33AM

I have 2 in for grading at pcgs, they look pretty good to me but pcgs is hard on gold. Maybe I'll get lucky and get
a MS out of it

Walt

izzy452 · February 3, 2004 1:36AM

Vern, Nice pickup on that 1811. Got any pics ?

Walt

elverno · February 3, 2004 1:46AM

Not yet, everything I get goes into a photo box; first in, first out. It's about a hundred back at the moment...

GDJMSP · February 3, 2004 12:33PM

<< <i>Hey Doug, Just one more French one. Im looking for a Louie 18th .

You know I have to buy something, those sovereigns are hard to locate.

Take care
Walt >>

Walt - which Louie 18th are you looking for - 20f - 40f - 50f - 100f ?? I see 'em all the time. Lemme know and I'll drop you a line when I see one

And those sovereigns aren't hard to find - the dang things are comin out of the woodwork

JohnZ · February 3, 2004 11:14PM

And those sovereigns aren't hard to find - the dang things are comin out of the woodwork

Hey Doug, izzy and I were talking specifically about the Edward VII Sovereigns minted in London. It's true, you can get raw ones from a lot of dealers, but getting them in MS, and nice enough for a registry set is another matter. Granted, I haven't tried very hard yet, but the handful I got last month were in grades around EF, and there were two AU sliders that had been whizzed and advertised as BU.

izzy452 · February 4, 2004 4:20AM

John, I Pm'ed Doug about that "coming out of the woodwork" I told him, yes but they look like the termites got to them before they came out of the woodwork

I beleive he was just kiddin around when he said that.

Walt

1jester · February 4, 2004 5:28AM

Perhaps this isn't the case any longer, but I bought a small group of Gem BU sovereigns 7-8 years ago, as bullion coins, and among them were Eddie VII pieces. I wish now I hadn't sold them for bullion 5 years ago. The same goes for the pile of Swiss Helvetias I bought for bullion that were exquisite. Oh well.

izzy452 · February 4, 2004 5:39AM

Hiya Jester, Do you recall if they were from the London Mint? Seems these are even harder to find. I see many minted in Australia but few in London.

Walt

1jester · February 4, 2004 5:46AM

Sorry, Walt, I don't remember.

JohnZ · February 4, 2004 6:12AM

The London Mint Edward VII Sovereigns are definitely harder to find than the ones minted in Melbourne. I came across a number of the Australian examples already slabbed by either PCGS or NGC in some degree of MS.

Cruzi · February 4, 2004 11:13AM

<< <i>The London Mint Edward VII Sovereigns are definitely harder to find than the ones minted in Melbourne. I came across a number of the Australian examples already slabbed by either PCGS or NGC in some degree of MS. >>

London and Melbourne sovs are generally very well struck coins, and are the easiest to find in MS. Sydney and Perth are a different story, and can vary a great deal from year to year. When you combine poor strikes with the bagging and handling marks , it makes it very hard.

Unc coins (around MS 62 ) are not especially difficult to obtain but do require patience, Choice Unc ( MS 63-64 ) are very hard to find, been looking for a Perth one for a while

As for BU ( Gem or MS 65+ ) be wary of any such claims on all sovs pre-1932, as manufacturing and handling methods virtually assured that they are a extremely rare find.

JohnZ · February 4, 2004 11:23AM

Well, like I said, I haven't been trying very hard.

Too busy buying Polish coins....

izzy452 · February 4, 2004 11:26AM

I have, and not with much luck. Cruzi, if you see one let me know.

Walt

GDJMSP · February 4, 2004 12:25PM

I sent you a PM back Walt - included links to a half dozen or so MS sov & half sovs - all slabbed

And you guys didn't specify mint marks and dates and such - you just said MS. If you're gonna get picky - at least let me know

izzy452 · February 4, 2004 9:43PM

Doug, thanks for the links. But now you know the whole story

Take care
Walt

A French Coin I just picked up.

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