How about admitting the $$$ you paid for a card/cards that now are pretty much worthless?
TheRoach
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Example: '94-95 Grant Hill Finest RC PSA 9 ( $80 )
'92-93 Shaq Stadium Club RC UNGRADED ( $70 )
'94-95 SP Jarome Iginla RC BGS 9 ( $150, this was about 2 years ago when he led the league in goals that fluke year )
'89-90 Hoops David Robinson SP RC ( $40, C'mon everybody had to buy this one back then )
'91-92 Upper Deck Dikembe Mutombo/Larry Johnson RC's ( An average of $10-$15 a piece routinely back then )
(15) '91 Stadium Club Ricky Ervins ( RB for Washington - I paid about $7-$8 a piece )
Please share some of your flops that were actually decent buys at the time. We all have some stories. This is a very abbreviated list of my stories.
TheRoach
'92-93 Shaq Stadium Club RC UNGRADED ( $70 )
'94-95 SP Jarome Iginla RC BGS 9 ( $150, this was about 2 years ago when he led the league in goals that fluke year )
'89-90 Hoops David Robinson SP RC ( $40, C'mon everybody had to buy this one back then )
'91-92 Upper Deck Dikembe Mutombo/Larry Johnson RC's ( An average of $10-$15 a piece routinely back then )
(15) '91 Stadium Club Ricky Ervins ( RB for Washington - I paid about $7-$8 a piece )
Please share some of your flops that were actually decent buys at the time. We all have some stories. This is a very abbreviated list of my stories.
TheRoach
7 MVP awards, the single season HR record, career walks record, single season walks record, 700HR/500SB, and two batting titles near 40 years old. How can one argue that those aren't stats of the greatest to ever play the game??? All this and there is still more to come!!!! Bonds:2005 NL MVP. Or are you going to doubt him again?
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so I sank a TON of cash into those low pop and graded vintage cards.
$100 for the only BGS 9 donruss stawberry rc.
$80 for the only BGS 9 fleer strawberry rc.
$80 for one of the 2 1990 donruss bernie williams. (ouch... later sold for $3.00)
$355 for the only BGS 7 1961 Fleer Bill Russell (trimmed)
$150 for the only BGS 8 1971 Yastrzemski
$495 for a BGS 6.5 1961 Fleer Jerry West (trimmed)
$290 for a BGS 8 1980 Bird/Magic RC (Evidence of trimming)
etc etc etc etc
for 1 year
Then BVG came out... or it was discovered the cards were trimmed, recolored etc. and you can imagine the horrific surprise I experienced
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I spent 1000's of $$$$ on shaq rookies back in 1992. heck bought every one of them. now they worthless.
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on the various rookies. How about $8 for Dan McGwires, $6 for Todd Marinovich, $2 for Nick
Bell, $1 on Harvey Williams, and even $1 for Russell Maryland. I bought in quantities of about 25-50
depending on price and player. Fortunately, I did grab about 40 Favre rookies at $1 each. That and
a handful of Barry Sanders at a decent price. I think I still came out ahead.
1991 Stadium Club football sure brings back memories.
aconte
I threw it away about 3 years ago. BTW I PAID 100.00 for it.
James
I have so many boxes of bargain basement cards that were once "hot prospects" it makes me sick to even ponder this question....a box full of Ruben Sierra's cards comes immediately to mind.
Bonds
Bonilla
Canseco
Clark
Mitchell
I think I paid $38 for it. I looked at the Bonds the other day. It's centered 10/90 t/b.
dave
FINISHED 12/8/2008!!!
Going back a bit, what about Joe Charbaneau (not spelled right, but he was the next big thing for the Indians back in the early eighties). I think he was even on a SCD cover back then.
'88 Topps FB Bo Jackson RC - $15
'87 Topps FB Jim Everett RC - $20
'89 Score FB Deion Sanders RC - $30
How about this one? '90 Score Baseball Bo Jackson shoulder pads with bat across his shoulders black& white card? It cost me about $10
Anything Pro-Set
$3 or $4 a piece for some of Isiah Rider's better rookie cards.
Lots of $$$ on the "State of the Art" '90-'91 Skybox Basketball Product. ( Shawn Kemp, Derrick Coleman, and guys like Felton Spencer?? )
A ton of $$$ on 1990 Score Football thinking that with the scarcity and popularity of the '89 set, the '90 set would be a "Can't miss". It may have been if they didn't have a print run of 1,000,000,000 cases!!
That brings me to the next guy.. Jeff George. That son of a b*tch cost me alot of $$$.
Someone brought up Dan McGwire. That was hilarious. It wasn't when I was dropping tall cash on his tall, crappy armed a$$.
Finally ( but by far not my last ), how about a 1987 Fleer Will "The Thrill" Clark rookie back in '89 or so. Boy, the more items I type, the more I am starting to think that I have lost a hell of alot more $$$ than I have made on cards.
TheRoach
1988 Topps Traded Jim Abbott ----- I bought several of these for $8 a piece
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Are you serious about your BGS cards being trimmed? How did you find out? BGS stands behind its grading. If you send a BGS card to be reslabbed in a BVG holder, and the graders see that the card was originally trimmed upon their second inspection, then it is their problem and must compensate you since they are the ones to put it in circulation. Otherwise, grading companies would mean nothing to the hobby.
You might have paid excessive for the Strawberry rookie, but that's what happened to me with the Tony Gwynn rookie which I paid $160 for about 3 years ago (I know now that the supply increases so the prices were not stable back then).
Sometime ago, you told me to be careful and not go on a shopping spree on ebay. Meaning, I should get only exactly what I want and wear blinders to all the other "good" deals. Otherwise, like you mentioned, I would get stuck with a bunch of stuff I would not really care about anymore. I followed your advice and have been very careful in choosing my buys. Thank you for your input and advice at the time. I am glad I was careful since I notice prices really coming down on certain things like the Maddux and Glavine rookies (still solid, but not as expensive as before).
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Nick
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...and it was largely psa that deemed my cards trimmed when I sent them in to be crossed over.
...and if psa says they are trimmed, I have to believe that.
Trimmed, cut from a sheet... I dunno... either way, I couldn't find a dealer at FT WASH that would touch them in a BGS holder.
I even offered the BGS 7 61 russell #38 to the guy at the shoelessjoe (rushoeless) booth and he wouldn't give me $125 in trade. a few other dealers said they wouldn't touch BGS stuff.
Man, I couldn't even give it away.
Even if they did stand behind their product... those cards are long gone... ebayed... snapped up by other BGS enthusiasts.
what can BGS honestly do about the havoc BVG and BCCG created on their pop reports?
forget the trimming/coloring issues and imagine that you have a nice big pile of vintage graded BGS stuff... you paid a wicked premium for it because you didn't know any better... and your eyes surely told you that their nm/mt 8's looked as nice as psa 9's...
then...
they start BVG and mix these cards with easier standards into the pop reports....
your 1/1's become 1/10's.
the card you paid so much for on ebay now sells for a fraction.
you feel cheated, beytrayed and screwed.
anyways... I still won't touch them...
Glad you were able to take the advice. I wish I listened to my own advice. I keep ending up reselling 1/2 the stuff I impulsively buy.
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circa. november 1981
collector 1: hey, the 81 set is gonna be worth a fortune someday
collector 2: i know!!, you got fernando, charboneau, and the mookie wilson/ hubie brooks rookies
collector 1: you wanna take a walk to henry's card shop and see if he got anymore horner rookies in?
collector 2: nah, i'm gonna save my money for when the 82's come out, i want to stock up on righetti rookies
Lot of 50 Vinny Testaverde RC's Traded a Steve Largent RC for it
Lot of 100 Ben Petrick Rc's Paid $79
now worth a few cents
the last major loss i can recall was when i bought an 85 topps mcgwire rookie in psa7 at the time of the homerun record for like 80 dollars, that i ended up selling last year when i upgraded for 17 dollars and some change.
i have also lost many jerry rice rookies in poker games (probably like 10 fresh from packs) back when they were like 15 bucks.
(not really the point of this thread but it still eats at me inside!!)
any 1992 Hoops Magics ART cards- $100 for the Mourning (gulp), now valued lower than a McDonalds cheeseburger.
Jerome Walton, Kevin Maas, Phil Plantier, Ruben Rivera, Travis Lee, Brien Taylor, Heath Shuler, Dan McGwire, Ricky Ervins, Rick Mirer, 86 Donruss Cansucko rooks (peaked at $125!!), Andre Ware, Jim Abbott
the 1990 Score Bo Jackson BB/FB combo card....once ten bucks, now ten cents.
The Pro Set Lombardi Hologram...although this card is still damn hard to find, even with a print run of 10000. Pro Set was a tad liberal with their print run, to say the least.
the Donruss Elite series from the early 90's.....they peaked at $150 a pop, and were the premier insert cards for several years.
and a personal bust, i bought 2 2000 Bowman Chrome Keith Ginter PSA 9's for $40. if anyone actually bothered to list one on ebay now, it'd bring a few bucks tops
Always looking for 1957 Topps BB in PSA 9!
JEB.
- Slowly (Very Slowly) Working On A 1952 Topps Raw Set (Lower Grade)
How about $500 for a Patrick Ewing rookie bag? That was the peak. I sold it on Ebay a year or two ago for $50.
1985 Star Olajuwon bag for $500-sold for $150
Traded a 1985 Star Miller Lite Jordan ($175) for a Messier OPC rookie. Sold it on Ebay a year ago for $30.
And who can forget the 1989 UpperDeck (Hi#, those were rare!) Dwight Smith rookie, 1991 OPC Premier baseball (they were as rare as the hockey cards), 1990 UpperDeck French Hockey (stop the presses!! Only 500 cases exist, lol), 1990 Score Bo Jackson B/W for $10, and those lovely 1990 Proset football "error cards". Haha, remember the Perry Kemp error, the Barry Sanders error, and the Johnny Holland No Name error cards?
Luckily I came to my senses and didn't lose that much money on all this stuff (maybe $150). I remember vividly when the 1990 UpperDeck French Hockey cards came out. They were supposedly the rarest modern cards of all time. Even rarer than 1990 Leaf baseball or OPC Premier hockey. I bought a few packs for $15 (gasp!).
1990 Skybox was another infamous set. The Danny Rookie card! Of course, I bought one for $5. And count me in for the $30 Hoops David Robinson Rookie.
90-91 Upper Deck High # French Hockey
many $$$$ up in smoke,
wish i had that $$$$ now!
ouch!
but I've never been wrong
it seldom turns out the way
it does in the song
once in a while
you get shown the light
in the strangest of places
if you look at it right
a few years ago, paying ONLY $70 for a card that at the time
was going for $100 in that grade...
but it later EXPLODED in population at that grade
and is NOW readily available for around $10...
I still have it.
Early 1988 - Did so well with 1986D and 1987D factory sets, bought about 2 cases of cello boxes of 1988D at retail. Sold all in local auction in 1993. Lost lots-o-money.
Mid 1988 - Bought 5 1988 fleer wax rack cases @ $265 each. Went to around $450 within a year. Still have 3 worth around $60 now.
First graded card - bought 1997 GSV Tiger Woods BGS 9 a few days before his bombed 3rd round of the 2002 British Open. Paid $411 including tax and shipping from-----you guessed it---------DSL Sports (who by the way sold BGS 9's of this card over an 18 month period). Many are out there now. Now worth maybe $100-150. (At least I didn't spend $3500+ for a 9.5 sold around the same time)
Live and learn, and learn, and learn, and learn, and ...................................
BOTR
Mike
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Dateline, 1986. Jose Canseco Donruss rookies are the hottest thing going. I buy a box and pull two. My brother pulls none from his box. We agree on a trade. His 1972 Johnny Bench (ex-mt) for one of my Canseco's. The ensuing years prove how utterly stupid I am. The past few years, however, have proven how utterly smart I really was.
'86-- Tom Browning, Ernie Riles, Ozzie Guillen, Vince Coleman
'87-- I won't even talk about '87, except to mention Mike Aldrete--- I still have a 500 ct. box of hit Topps issue around here somewhere.
'88- Oh God. Jose Lind, Joey Meyer, a Mariners pitcher (something Campbell? Mike Campbell, maybe?), Matt Williams, and of course the true prize---- Gregg Jeffries.
After this I said the hell with it, and started spending my paychecks from Hardees on dimebags and '40's of Milwaukee's best. I haven't touched the bud in years (I still have a beer now and then when I bowl on Friday's), but I'll tell you what-- I'd rather have the hazy memories of packing a one-hitter in the back of an '83 Camaro than a 5000 ct. box of Chris Sabo RC's.
Nick
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I hate to correct you but Gregg Jefferies was 88 Donruss. I too got burnt on those
ps- i hate mcgwire, sosa, and any modern card cause i payed way to much for it.
pss- i am 14 away from a 56 topps set and starting a 57 and 60 set...my money goes to vintage material in ex-mt/nm that i can possibly recoup if i ever wanted to resell it.
loth
<< <i>How about this one of the dumbest things i ever did!! sold a Michael Jordon 86 fleer rookie card back in 1989. For 60$ cash bc i needed the money to go see van halen!!! card was gem i pulled it from a pack!! wish i had that card back now.
I spent 1000's of $$$$ on shaq rookies back in 1992. heck bought every one of them. now they worthless. >>
but VAN HALEN rocked.. what tour was that?
It was scary how people jumped all over the '89 Upper Deck cards after the first printing got snapped up. I remember Todd Zeile cards going for $10 apiece at local shows and even more on dealer tables. I actually made a few bucks on those, as I saw a store dealer who had a buy price of $3 each on them, and proceeded to pick up 10 for $25 from a show dealer and flip them the next day for a $5 profit. After the market came to its senses a few years later, I picked up a couple at a quarter each. One of them is now signed by Zeile, so it can't turn into a total loss.
I used to pride myself on picking out the unheralded rookies who would become hot in 6 months to a year, and whose cards I could pick up for 5 to 10 cents apiece. That's why I now have large stacks of Doug Drabek, Bobby Thigpen, Rob Murphy, Milt Thompson, Mike Kingery, and several other players who jumped from pennies to a dollar or more (I think as much as $5 each in the case of '87 Fleer Drabek rookies) but then plummeted back down to pennies apiece.
I still do the same sort of speculation, but at least now with serial numbered rookies there will always be some sort of a market from master set collectors.
Nick
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$$$$ on some Pinnicle hockey inserts (at the time they were big money) they were black cards and were so rare (I think under a million produced was rare back then)
One I regret was passing on a lot of 1986 Fleer basketball....I'm talking freshly opened boxes with nothing being pulled out (Jordan's were in there) I had to give a 83 OPC hockey set and hockey was king here so there was no way I could do it.
Let's see-
1990 Donruss Nolan Ryan error pair (reversed backs) $40
1990 Donruss Juan Gonzalez reversed neg $5-10 each
1990 Score Ryne Sandberg "3B" error $15
1989 UD Murphy reversed neg $125
1989 UD Sheffield "upside down SS" $10 or $15
I can't remember one error card I ever bought. I think I did trade for a 1989 Billy Ripkin
Still it's one of my favourite sets of all time, the card design was very nice.
I mean that is something that I got into
and made a KILLING with the first year
and then LOST MY BUUUUTTTT the next!
While I did finally sold most of mine off.
I still have a couple gathering dust and
loosing money for me as we speak!
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