Ignored by Krause, or just another 30th Ed. foulup?

satootoko · January 23, 2004 2:14AM

My

30th Ed. jumps from 1942 (KM#39) to 1946 (KM#39a) in its listings of Canadian 5 cent coins. Although I couldn't find a picture of one on the CCRS site, I did find a couple of threads discussing them, and the descriptions match this coin:

It's about the size of a U.S. quarter, is attracted to a magnet, and looks like it's chrome plated. Unlike KM#39, which does have 12 sides, the 12-sided appearance of this one is only in the border, on a round planchet that doesn't show well in the photo. Has it been assigned a KM# in other Krause editions?

Steve27 · January 23, 2004 2:18AM

I don't know about the Krause issue, but I do know that it's attracted to a magnet because, unlike US Nickels which are mostly copper, it's mostly nickel.

historygeek · January 23, 2004 2:29AM

These are wartime issues: Chrome plated steel blanks.

Compa · January 23, 2004 3:24AM

In the 2001 edition they are listed as KM-40a - under Commemorative Five Cents. - Page 294

I have no idea about the newest Krause.

Coincracker · January 23, 2004 3:36AM

If you look closely around the edge of the coin, you will notice those denticles are actually morris code.
I believe it says "we win when we work together".

cosmicdebris · January 23, 2004 5:55AM

31st edition has it as KM 40 TOMBAC for 1943 and 1944
KM 40A for 1944 and 1945

MyWorldCoinTypeSet · January 23, 2004 6:59AM

<<<<<< Hey, that looks a lot like my icon.

The 1944/1945 issues are war steel (junk steel), with a plating of nickel then a plating of chrome. Some of them are missing the chrome plating.

The Morse Code states "We Win when we Work Willingly".

JMOORE · January 23, 2004 7:42AM

I have noticed that in my 2004 Krause if the coin is a Commemorative it skips over the date and is listed in another section.

Jim

MyWorldCoinTypeSet · January 23, 2004 7:50AM

I'm not sure what is being commemorated. It's a war issue.

JMOORE · January 23, 2004 8:15AM

I'm at work now but when I get home I'll see if I can find it listed...

Jim

satootoko · January 23, 2004 9:02AM

Well, the one thing that is clear is that it's another screwup in the

30th Ed.

The 2001 placement in commemmoratives also seems incorrect, and the metal description in the 2004 is pure

.

According to every online and print dictionary I've consulted, "tombac" is "an alloy of copper and zinc (and sometimes arsenic) used to imitate gold in cheap jewelry and for gilding". Something made of copper and zinc, with or without arsenic added, isn't going to do this:

in the vertical position.

Considering PBRat's familiarity with the coin, and his accurate rendition of the morse code (which, BTW, is a jammed up against the rim, and a real bear to read for my old eyes), I'm going to go along with his description of the composition. Mine definitely looks like a chrome plated jobby that has not lost any of its chrome!

JMOORE · January 23, 2004 9:28AM

I think that I found it in the Krause 31st Edition:
Page 278
KM# 40a
Composition: Chrome Plated Steel
Mintage: 18,893,216
MS-63: 4.00

I'm still new at this so I could be wrong

Jim

Compa · January 23, 2004 9:59AM

The method of listing the nickels (commems seperated) is not new to the 30th edition. It goes back to at least the 24th edition (1997).

They were listed all together back in the 1989 edition, but I don't have any copies of the years in between so I can't say when the change in presentation format happened.

Ignored by Krause, or just another 30th Ed. foulup?

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