High grade 60's/70's Football/Basketball collection for sale!

VintageBallCards · January 19, 2004 5:28AM

Hello all!

I am a long time lurker of the set registry message boards but a first time poster. I think it's great how Collectors Universe created these message boards so collectors can interact with eachother about their sets and special finds.

I myself have been a collector of 60's and 70's both football and basketball commons and stars in high grade and have put together a decent sized collection but NEVER registered a card. Unfortunatley, due to some unexpected circumstances I must part with some of my collection and before I went out offering it on eBay or to dealers I wanted to offer some to the collectors who I believe would enjoy my treasures the most.

Here we go! (all are PSA graded)

Football

1960 Fleer- I have about 30 different 8's and about 12 different 9's
1961 Fleer- I have about 75 different 8's and about 18 different 9's
1962 Fleer- I have about 10 different 8's and about 8 different 9's
1963 Fleer- I have about 10 different 8's and only a couple of 9's
1969 Topps- I have about 30 different 8's and about 16 different 9's from this amazing set (many are 1/1s!!)
1970 Topps- I have about 40 different 8's, 7 or 8 9's and 1 10!
1972 Topps- One common PSA 10
1978 Topps- About 100 different 8's, 100 different 9's and a few 10's
1979 Topps- About 100 different 8's, 125 different 9's and 12 10's

Basketball

1969 Topps- 3 PSA 9's (#'s 29, 4, 92)
1970 Topps- 1 PSA 9 (#56-very tough card in the set)
1971 Topps- About 25 different 8's and about 20 different 9's (many 1/1s!!) Also I have 2 very special PSA 10's (checklist and Chamberlain/Jabbar leader card! both 1/1s)
1972 Topps-About 10 different 9's
1977 Topps-Austin Carr PSA 10

This is all I have for sale right now but last month I purchased a deal of 1960's Football sets for $15,000. The cards are amazingly high grade and I will be sending them in in the next month so I will have some very nice stuff when those come back

If any of you are collecting any of these sets and would like to hear details on prices and what cards I have for each set please email me at VintageBallCards@aol.com and I will email you back promptly.
PLEASE NOTE: I AM NOT LOOKING TO BLOW THESE OUT, IF YOUR LOOKING TO STEAL A DEAL DON'T EMAIL ME, I AM A COLLECTOR AND PAID MY DUES IN THE CARD MARKET FOR SOME OF THESE BABIES!

Thanks for reading my post!

JasP24 · January 19, 2004 6:19AM

I sent an e-mail with wantlist from those sets.

Let me know if you have any of the cards listed.

Jason

aro13 · January 19, 2004 7:09AM

Email sent.
Thanks
Albie

Mykabota · January 19, 2004 7:20AM

I sent an e-mail.
Thanks,
Michael

VintageVikes · January 19, 2004 8:17AM

Email sent.
Thank you,
Brad

GangstaJayson · January 19, 2004 12:35PM

ygm!!!!

pc · January 19, 2004 12:44PM

welcome to the boards and thanks for the 1964
stand up purchases tonight on ebay.lmk your info.

januscapital · January 20, 2004 12:02AM

Email sent regarding 1971 Topps Basketball. Tim

carew4me · January 22, 2004 9:14PM

Have any of ytou heard back from this guy?
3 emails and no response.

thefootballcardstore · January 22, 2004 9:18PM

I have not - Jeremy

Davalillo · January 22, 2004 9:21PM

Yes--great guy!!

We did a sizable deal.

Dav

VintageBallCards · January 23, 2004 8:08AM

Hello everyone and thank you for all the emails regarding my collection. I noticed a couple of people in the thread stated they have not received an email from me which is strange because I thought everyone had been responded to, I apologize if you hadn't received a response as something must have gone wrong in transit. Please email me and I will respond promptly as always.

Thanks!

januscapital · January 24, 2004 4:51AM

I did not receive an email regarding my interest in his 1971 Topps Basketball. I did send him another message and hope for a response.

januscapital · February 6, 2004 12:44AM

Did anyone else have a transaction with VintageBallCards? I purchased two 1971 Topps Basketball PSA 9s. Paid with PayPal on Jan. 25. He agreed to ship Jan. 26th. Have not received the cards or a response to email and private messages trying to verify shipment.

carew4me · February 6, 2004 12:46AM

I emailed 3 x and finally gave up.

AlanAllen · February 6, 2004 1:01AM

He initially replied that he had 2 cards I needed, then went radio silent.

Joe

nearmint · February 6, 2004 1:01AM

I paid for some cards with PayPal on 1/26, and the seller said that they would be mailed on 1/27. As of 2/3, the cards had not arrived, so I sent this email. It was not answered, and I sent it again on 2/4:

> Danny,
>
> I haven't received these cards yet. Did you mail them last Tuesday?
>
> Mike

On 2/4 I got this response:

> Mike, I am very sorry, they just made their way back to me....Says wrong address, please confirm which address they need to be sent and they will go out first thing tomorrow.

> I am very sorry for this

> Danny

Maybe he got your address wrong, too.

Has anyone received cards from this person yet?

Mike

wolfbear · February 6, 2004 1:31AM

I sent paypal payment on Wednesday January 21,
and received the cards on Monday the 26th, everything fine.

Danny e-mailed me his phone number.
I never called it, but here's the one he gave me : 650 - 520 - 3272

nearmint · February 6, 2004 1:34AM

Thanks, Wolfbear, that's a relief.

Mike

VintageVikes · February 6, 2004 4:14AM

he replied to my email the same day, but i didn't buy anything.

RobBobGolf · February 6, 2004 5:25AM

I got a reply, but there were no bargains, as he stated.

RobBob

nearmint · February 11, 2004 4:17AM

An update: the phone number that Wolfbear gave us above is no longer in service. It was still in service yesterday, and Danny's voice messaging service answered it--with Danny's voice. I left a message, but it was not returned, and the cards I paid for have still not arrived. He does not answer emails, either.

I sent Davalillo an email this morning, asking him if he received the cards he ordered. He said yes, but he did not send his check until the cards arrived. Wise man.

If anyone has advice on how to deal with someone in another state, I would appreciate it. I have filed a complaint with PayPal, but I am not optimistic about how much they will help.

If this person resurfaces, I highly recommend not dealing with him. The address he gave me, in case I wanted to pay by check, is this:

Bay Area Collectibles
1222 Oak Grove Ave #110
Burlingame, CA 94010

The email addresses I have are VintageBallCards@aol.com and ken_n@verizon.net.

Mike

TheCARDKid · February 11, 2004 4:53AM

I remember seeing the Austin Carr PSA 10 on Ebay. That auction started on January 27th, yet this initial post was on January 19th. Maybe he sold the card quickly, and then it was listed on Ebay quickly. It might be a coincidence, it might not be. That would have required a fairly fast turn around time.

I wish you all luck on your transactions.

Skycap · February 11, 2004 4:55AM

I wonder about this "VintageBallCards" guy. This is very fishy.

He was the same one who started this unbelievable thread, perhaps trying to evoke sympathy here, about blowing $15,000 on LeBron James' cards.

Other thread started by VintageBallCards

Be afraid. Be very afraid!

Skycap

thefootballcardstore · February 11, 2004 5:01AM

Now I know who this guy is - last year after many phone conversations and emails Danny wanted to buy a large lot of cards from us.
We agreed on a price after about a week and then I sent an invoice. He responded immediatley by saying he was going to overnight payment. Well, days turned into week and I finally got the hint he either changed his mind or was playing a game.

Yes Danny from SF - I justed looked for the cell phone number I had for him but thinking I wouldn't be dealing with him anymore, I ditched it with last years planner. He also shafted a couple of seller on some stuff under the eBay ID psasetregistry. He also had a matching email back then psasetregistry@aol.com. Not sure if it is still in service but thought I would pass this along to those who might get some use out of it. Nice guy on the phone and in email, but with NO follow though.

Best of luck everyone - let me know if I can help at all in any other way. Jeremy

thefootballcardstore · February 11, 2004 5:12AM

I just searched all of my old emails and the phone number wolfbear provided is the same one I had.
Back to the drawing board - Jeremy

Kid4hof03 · February 11, 2004 5:26AM

I hope it works out for you guys but I bought a card from him on ebay last year, just as Jeremy menitoned, setregistry or something similar. Anyway, long story short I never got my card or my refund. Got 3 or 4 e-mails saying the card was being sent, but never was. Thankfully it was only $35, I hope it works out better for you guys than it did for me.

jvineyard · February 11, 2004 5:42AM

I had just the opposite experience. I just completed an ebay deal with him, and recieved the cards on time with no problems. I didn't realize it was the same dealer - but the e-mail is the same. Maybe I was just lucky.

nearmint · February 11, 2004 7:31AM

Thanks, everyone, for your information and support, both here and in private messages. (I'd encourage those of you who contacted me privately to post here, too.) If I get a resolution of any sort, I will post it here.

Be careful out there.

Mike

NickM · February 11, 2004 7:40AM

I'm going to Burlingame on the 20th. If anyone can find a phone number for him, I'll make sure to give him a call (and maybe a visit).

Nick

JusttheFacts · February 11, 2004 9:19AM

Uh Oh...

I recently won 10 auctions for various PSA 9 football. The seller's ebay handle was bacdeals. The handle was changed from bac_collectibles on January 26. This didn't bother me because the seller had 100% positive feedback of 175. I paid via Paypal (using a credit card) on February 8 and I received an e-mail and February 9 saying the cards were shipped. He left positive feedback for all of the auctions upon receiving payment. The interesting thing is that the e-mail address was ken_n@verizon.net, and the e-mail was signed "BAC" [presumably Bay Area Collectibles]. It's too early to tell if this transaction will go OK but I will post the results either good or bad.

John

RobBobGolf · February 11, 2004 10:03AM

Bought 6 PSA Football cards from bacdeals on Feb 3rd, and have them allready. FYI

RobBob

Nuyauwka · February 11, 2004 10:35AM

I won something less then 2 weeks ago and received it promptly from the BACdeals.Never realized it was Bay area collectibles. there was a real problem with him about 8-9 months ago, there was a thread on here of someone trying to help other people retrieve their money through paypal from auctions won from him, paypal ruled in favor for me but said they could do nothing about the money. I had his phone # and left many threatening messages. Never heard anything back, then a couple of weeks after that my auctions had arrived. He got a rash of negitives in a row , he went from perfect to getting about 15 in a 3 week span.Good luck, from past experience I think you will get your stuff , it will just take a while.If it was through PAypal , file a claim immediately, you might get your money back through them.

wolfbear · February 12, 2004 2:04AM

I won some auctions from bacdeals on eBay a couple of weeks ago,
paid via paypal, and the cards arrived promptly and in great condition.

Funny thing is my paypal payment for those cards went to Kenneth Newman,
and the cards I bought from VintageBallCards off this board also went to Kenneth Newman.

Any updates on this matter ?

januscapital · February 12, 2004 2:32AM

After reading VintageBallCard's thread, I contacted him (Danny) and purchased two 1971 Topps Basketball PSA 9s on January 25th. I paid by PayPal. The PayPal ID was ken_n@verizon.net. I have not received the cards or a reply to numerous email messages. I have also filed a complaint with PayPal and have not received any response as of today. Since I live in the cold Midwest, a trip to the Bay Area sounds appealing about now. Tim

nearmint · February 12, 2004 2:54AM

When I asked Danny who Ken was, he told me that Ken is the guy who does his ebay auctions.

No cards here yet, no response from anyone. I filed a PayPal complaint, too.

Mike

nearmint · February 12, 2004 6:34AM

Sorry if this saga is getting boring, but perhaps some of you will be interested in the PayPal complaint process.

I got a response to my complaint. The seller--or rather, the person whose PayPal account he was using--provided a bogus delivery confirmation number (it doesn't even resemble a USPS number), and PayPal bounced it back to him. I'm impressed so far: PayPal didn't pass it on to me to respond to; they checked it out themselves and rejected it. Just in case he meant UPS, I checked the code on the UPS site, too. It's not a valid UPS code, either.

I'll append the response I got when I logged into my PayPal account.

Mike

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Seller Name:
Kenneth Newman
Seller Email:
ken_n@verizon.net
Transaction Amount:
-$xx.xx USD
Transaction Date:
Jan. 26, 2004

--------------------------------------------------------------------------------

PayPal Case ID:
PP-031-495-119
Reason for Dispute:
Non-Receipt
Date of Complaint:
Feb. 10, 2004
Status:
Reviewing Seller's Response
Status Details:
The seller has responded to our initial inquires about this transaction.

PayPal reviewed all of the information supplied by the seller, however the seller could not prove delivery to your confirmed address or that a previous refund was provided.

Tracking Number: er560791234
Tracking Company: USPS

januscapital · February 12, 2004 8:30AM

Here's the tracking number he furnished to PayPal for my complaint: er560791248us. Guess what? It doesn't exist.

motocrosser · February 12, 2004 11:58AM

After reading Howard's (Nuyauwka's) post I went into my past ebay auctions.
I won a $500.00 card from Bay area collectibles on 27 May 03. After many emails and 3-4 weeks I finally received the card.

I checked his past ebay username of Bay area collectibles, that went NARU on 21 July 03. 4 negs. and 3 neutrals in one week. One of the Neg's did post that he was reimbursed $1,600+ by the guy.

He's reading this, so keep on him. Hopefully everyone will get what they paid for.

mx'er

_______________
1961 topps 100%
Looking for any year Pat Hentgen psa 9 or 10 for my Cy young set.

nearmint · February 13, 2004 5:42AM

Alleluia! I received my cards today, Express Mail. In one Express Mail envelope inside another, with no packing, as if they were packaged at the post office. The holders look brand new, and the numbers show that they were all from the same batch. Perhaps they went straight from the PSA box into the Express Mail envelopes?

Whatever. They're nice cards, and I finally have them. I'll be waaaaay more cautious when buying from a stranger next time, though.

Mike

VintageVikes · February 13, 2004 10:42AM

Glad to see it worked out Mike.

JusttheFacts · February 17, 2004 7:00PM

Just an update on my last post:

I received the cards I ordered yesterday (February 17). The cards were packed fairly well and arrived undamaged. The delivery was not lightning fast, but I did receive the cards in just over a week from when I paid for them. Overall, no complaints on this transaction for me. I wish those who are still having problems with this seller the best of luck.

John

High grade 60's/70's Football/Basketball collection for sale!

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