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Interesting 1848 French 5-franc patterns

I picked up two different French 5-franc patterns at the FUN show, from our own Danglen.

This, the first, is a Pn48 in an ANACS PF64 holder. I thought it was a neat design. Note the little cherubs forming her headband, and the backward "4" in the date! The coin has slightly nicer mirrors than the picture would indicate, but I am grateful to Joe/mongoose for snapping it while we were there, as he captured it better than I could with my cheapo scanner.

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(Note: jpeg quality of the image had to be degraded considerably to upload it here.)

The other is a Pn72 in an ANACS PF63 holder. It has a more attractive female head but I don't have a picture of it. I thought the the rays on the obverse pf the Pn48 were cool and when I heard the prices on these, I was very pleasantly surprised. When I noticed the backward 4 on the Pn48 I had to have it.

I ended up swapping with Dan for the Pn72 the next day. It was the one that had originally caught my eye. He still has another one of these patterns left- I think the head on the obversere of it is supposed to be female, but it has a big, jowly and quite masculine looking head on the front (looks a little like George IV of England!)

I suspect these patterns are struck in white metal rather than silver, though it is hard to tell, and Krause does not say.

Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

Comments

  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Whoa! that backwards 4 is freaky! Cool, I like it image

    What exactly is "white metal"? I've heard that before for all sorts of coins but don't have a clue as to what it means image Is is always referring to the same thing (some nameless alloy?) or can it be tin, aluminum, etc?
  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I think "nameless alloy" pretty much covers "white metal". Could be any of a number of things.

    Collector since 1976. On the CU forums here since 2001.

  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Outstanding patterns-love seeing these things-hate not being able to afford them.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 44,209 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Cost me $225 each. Cheap, considering.

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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Nice one LM
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  • coinkatcoinkat Posts: 23,998 ✭✭✭✭✭
    What a great looking pattern... I like it.

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  • I found this on a web site about metals used in coinage

    White Metal
    Alloy
    A name given to a range of alloys usually containing antimony alloyed with tin, copper or lead to produce a white silvery metal used in the manufacture of medallions.

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