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cspeier1
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Hello Everyone,
My name is Chad and I've been reading this forum for several months. I only collect PSA, SGC, and BGS cards.. Just recently I joined the PSA membership, due to-well they made me.. I have no problem with that, it's just good business! Anyway, I am currently in the process of collecting 2000 SP Authentic football. I'm three cards short of completing all the rookies graded PSA 9 and 10. This brings me to the reason for my first post. I've been reading about cross-overs, SGC vs PSA, beckett vs trimmed, and I wanted to share my latest experience with the forum.
As you know when you join, you get 6 free grading certificates. I had 4 SP's that I felt were Gem, so I sent them. Along with the four cards, I had a SGC 7.5 Elway rookie which I was getting ready to list on Ebay. I also had a BGS 8 Montana rookie, which I purchased at a card show in KC.. Like I said I felt the Elway rookie would bring $25 on Ebay, so I decided to bust it out and send along. I always felt the Montana was a better card that a 8, it had subs of 8.5,8.5,8,8.5.. I just wanted a second opinion, so I busted it out and sent it also..
OK, this is the purpose of the post. My SP's came back PSA 9, PSA 9, PSA 10, and PSA 8. I was shocked at the PSA 8. After looking over the card I noticed a nicked corner.. What??? I know it wasn't there or I'd of never sent it.. Stuff happens I'm not to worried. Now for the Elway rookie. It WAS A SGC 7.5(A throw away card!! A $25.00 Ebay card!!) To my shock and heart attack, it came back a PSA 9!!! Holly Cow!! I just hit the lottery!!! The Montana which I purchased at card show came back TRIMMED!!! I was tweaked!! What and how, why and when!
This brings me to my concern. I'll never purchase a BGS card again! Knowing the Beckett stuff seems to bring more money, knowing how the market seems to LOVE Beckett stuff, It makes my stomach turn.. Beckett Grading, the toughest graders???, encapsuled a trimmed card. Never Again!! Makes me SICK!! Now the Elway, what's up with that? Was SGC sleeping? I almost sold a PSA 9 for $25.00.. All I can figure out is the grader felt sorry for me.
The problem I have is now I want to bust all my "other" cards out for regrading. How many more BGS cards will come back trimmed?? Thanks for reading and I LOVE this forum and hoppy..
Chad Speier
My name is Chad and I've been reading this forum for several months. I only collect PSA, SGC, and BGS cards.. Just recently I joined the PSA membership, due to-well they made me.. I have no problem with that, it's just good business! Anyway, I am currently in the process of collecting 2000 SP Authentic football. I'm three cards short of completing all the rookies graded PSA 9 and 10. This brings me to the reason for my first post. I've been reading about cross-overs, SGC vs PSA, beckett vs trimmed, and I wanted to share my latest experience with the forum.
As you know when you join, you get 6 free grading certificates. I had 4 SP's that I felt were Gem, so I sent them. Along with the four cards, I had a SGC 7.5 Elway rookie which I was getting ready to list on Ebay. I also had a BGS 8 Montana rookie, which I purchased at a card show in KC.. Like I said I felt the Elway rookie would bring $25 on Ebay, so I decided to bust it out and send along. I always felt the Montana was a better card that a 8, it had subs of 8.5,8.5,8,8.5.. I just wanted a second opinion, so I busted it out and sent it also..
OK, this is the purpose of the post. My SP's came back PSA 9, PSA 9, PSA 10, and PSA 8. I was shocked at the PSA 8. After looking over the card I noticed a nicked corner.. What??? I know it wasn't there or I'd of never sent it.. Stuff happens I'm not to worried. Now for the Elway rookie. It WAS A SGC 7.5(A throw away card!! A $25.00 Ebay card!!) To my shock and heart attack, it came back a PSA 9!!! Holly Cow!! I just hit the lottery!!! The Montana which I purchased at card show came back TRIMMED!!! I was tweaked!! What and how, why and when!
This brings me to my concern. I'll never purchase a BGS card again! Knowing the Beckett stuff seems to bring more money, knowing how the market seems to LOVE Beckett stuff, It makes my stomach turn.. Beckett Grading, the toughest graders???, encapsuled a trimmed card. Never Again!! Makes me SICK!! Now the Elway, what's up with that? Was SGC sleeping? I almost sold a PSA 9 for $25.00.. All I can figure out is the grader felt sorry for me.
The problem I have is now I want to bust all my "other" cards out for regrading. How many more BGS cards will come back trimmed?? Thanks for reading and I LOVE this forum and hoppy..
Chad Speier
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If you want to turn all your other slabs into PSA ones, go for crossover service on them. You can always submit them with minimum grade requests so that if they don't cross, you are only out the fees. It might save you the hassle of getting something back trimmed when it was previously in a holder.
Good luck
Hey Chad...Welcome to the boards!!!
Why don't you move all your BGS, SGC, GAI, PRO, and XYZ's to the best arena...PSA.
(I did.....)
Good Luck...
Larry
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
Paul.
Thanks for all the support
Chad
(BTW, since he was mentioned, Chris Speier went to my alma mater UCSB!)
It's for the reasons you mentioned that I stopped buying BGS cards. I feel that Beckett manipulated the graded card market through their Price Guides to give the impression that their cards are worth more than PSA and more so SGC. Through their manipulations ,in the modern card market, this has become a self fulfilling prophecy.
As many people say "Buy the card, not the holder".
BTW, are you doing any other SP Authentic football sets? You'll notice I've registered all the years up to 2001. I hope to make huge strides this year in all those sets. LMK if you are interested in starting these sets and if you need any advice.
Chad
http://www.clark22murray33.com
Chad,
Welcome to the best source of information for post war cards. Many knowledgeable people lurking here. Always good to have new blood,especially on modern stuff.
Vic
1963T Dodgers in 8s
Pre-war Brooklyn 5s or higher
<< <i>cspeier1...
Hey Chad...Welcome to the boards!!!
Why don't you move all your BGS, SGC, GAI, PRO, and XYZ's to the best arena...PSA.
(I did.....)
LOL* Larry, do you have stock in CLCT bud?
I have 4000 cards in PSA holders yet another 700 in 1st generation SGC holders! help me~ larry
check out my George Close e94 set on the registry*** I just submitted the rest of the set! Finally!
Welcome to the boards. Its great to get new blood and ideas.
Dave Jacobs
I checked out your set on the registry and youve got really high end cards. Nice upgrade on the Delhomme.
When did you start collecting it in PSA form..back in 2000 or recently?
If the panthers get to the Super Bowl....it would be tough for me to hold on to that PSA 10 with all the hype around him and his team.
Chad