Stolen Registry Jeffersons!

MJPHELAN · January 14, 2004 10:21AM

Please be on the lookout for the following Jefferson Registry coins stolen from Steve Wells.

1951-D PCGS 66FS 21007733
1951-S PCGS 66FS 21030726
1952 PCGS 64FS 21031025
1952-D PCGS 66FS 21049059
1952-S PCGS 66FS 21138181
1953 PCGS 65FS 21195643
1953-D PCGS 66FS 21031029
1954 PCGS 65FS 21195644
1954-D PCGS 65FS 21023520
1954-S PCGS 64FS 21138184
1955 PCGS 65FS 21195645
1955-D PCGS 64FS 21049101
1956 PCGS 66FS 21078560
1956-D PCGS 65FS 21078561
1957 PCGS 65FS 21078562
1957-D PCGS 66FS 21031041
1958 PCGS 65FS 21195646
1958-D PCGS 66FS 71116410
1959 PCGS 66FS 21078563

Please Contact Steve at

(702) 367-1884 or nevadaman777@earthlink.net

if you encounter any of these coins

Thanks

(This information was obtained from the Full Step Nickel Clubs newletter and printed here with
Steve's permission)

clackamas · January 14, 2004 11:05AM

Some of these won't be hard to spot, they are not common.

Russ · January 14, 2004 11:31AM

It seems to be an epidemic of scumbag activity lately.

Russ, NCNE

pontiacinf · January 14, 2004 8:37PM

54-s ms54fs ????????????????

i think im gonna be sick

I hope whoever did this pays bigtime, that 54sfs is almost impossiable to find

tgilliams · January 14, 2004 9:29PM

just aweful

CarlWohlforth · January 14, 2004 10:04PM

Terrible!

Is it that more thefts are indeed happening or just that we are hearing about more? In either case it is terrible.

stugale · January 15, 2004 9:44PM

scumbags....I remember when I stole 19 nickels from by dad..I had to pay him back a buck

grip · January 16, 2004 3:53AM

stugale
Your lucky,I coulden't sit for a week.

cladking · January 16, 2004 5:24AM

Thanks for the list. I'll keep my eyes open.

...hope he gets them back.

Mistercoinman · January 18, 2004 12:47AM

That's truly tragic, will keep a look out for them. The list will help!!!!

MJPHELAN · January 25, 2004 9:44AM

ttt

GQ · January 25, 2004 11:26AM

Got it..... list copied...will keep an eye out......

clackamas · January 26, 2004 6:12AM

Where (Location city and state) were the coins stolen from? It may help if some of us live in that town and see them at a local shop.

It would also be interesting to see if any of these coins are suddenly "made". A smart thief would crack them and resubmit raw.

Brian

MJPHELAN · January 26, 2004 9:31AM

Steve wrote me and said he tried to contact PCGS about the stolen coins. He said they would not look out for the coins being resubmitted for reholder or regrades. I don't know from where the coins were stolen.

spy88 · January 31, 2004 12:11PM

It is truly a very sad state for numismatics when a/the major TPGC will not even consider helping to possibly recover coins of this caliber.

Don't they have a clue as to how far this would go toward customer relations? What does it take---a dedicated program to input "known as stolen" PCGS slabbed coins with ID numbers? A few minutes to see if submitted coins are on it? Of course, this is hoping they don't crack them out and submit.

MatthewBabcock · February 4, 2004 6:02AM

From a database perspective, maintaining a list of coins reported stolen would be
VERY EASY to assemble and maintain. I say this because PCGS already maintains
a database containing cert numbers and assigned grades. When we use the cert
numbers to add our coins to the PCGS Registry, the database already knows what
coin it is, its grade and attributes. When we add comments to the registry, they
are saved with the coin. For example, when I added my Statehood Quarters (with
owner comments of "Flag Holder") to the yearly proof sets, the comments that I
added from the Statehood Quarter Registry automatically carried over. The same
was true for my Sacagawea Dollars.

Adding two fields to the database such as "Stolen" and "Date_Stolen" wouldn't be
asking too much. Including this information could be the responsibility of the coin
owner and then if someone were to pull up the Cert Verification page with a cert
number having been reported as stolen, the results page could indicate that this
coin had been reported " Reported stolen on 'date' ".

A good database administrator and web person could accomplish this task (from a
system's perspective) in roughly 1/2 hour to 1 hour. Adding a place for owners
reporting coins stolen (encapsalated from other grading services) would be a
GREAT public relations move. Stolen coins submitted for crossovers, not cracked
out, would be much easier to discover.

I'm thinking that this could do nothing but provide extensive public relations good
for PCGS to take this project on.

Matt
(A recovering database administrator)

MJPHELAN · February 4, 2004 11:36AM

I think that is a great idea Matt. I wonder what the best way to present it to PCGS would be? I understand there is a way to ask David Hall questions directly in this forum but I don't know how that is done.

Mark

MassFullStepper · February 4, 2004 12:18PM

To ask David Hall a direct question, just drop down the navigation menu to the Q & A option. Then, just fire off your question. As an aside, I think it is an excellent idea also.

MatthewBabcock · February 4, 2004 12:25PM

Thank you for the kind words.

I did go to the Q&A forum and advised them to take a look at this thread, especially my posting... (Provided a link and everything)

We shall see if anything comes of it...

Matt

Shamika · February 8, 2004 10:22PM

"He said they (PCGS) would not look out for the coins being resubmitted for reholder or regrades."

This is incredible! What could possibly be the excuse for not doing so?

RGL · February 9, 2004 10:54AM

This question/proposal was discussed on these boards, and brought to PCGS' attention, well over a year ago. Nothing ever happened ...

grip · February 9, 2004 11:48AM

If it is possible for PCGS to track stolen goods by the bar code, they should do it. Otherwise, they are not doing the best for the hobby.

coinpage · February 10, 2004 12:31AM

The topic of a stolen coin registry/database has come up a few times since I've been a board member. But there dosn't seem to be enough interest in a solution. I suggested a workable, but not perfect solution a bit back:

Old Thread with orginal idea

But received little interest. It seems that the negatives of implementing a such a system outweigh any benefits.
Someone please prove me wrong.

MatthewBabcock · February 10, 2004 9:23AM

I'm tired of smacking my own head...

Maybe someone of the fairer sex would like to take over for a while...

I think that David missed the point... He responded to my message in the Q&A (read his response here) board.

Hmmmmm....

Matt

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Mike - We should talk... I read and liked your idea.
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coinpage · February 13, 2004 5:39AM

Matt,

OK, what next?

MJPHELAN · February 13, 2004 9:49PM

Well, at least he said he would alert the graders for the coins. I think it shows he may be open to setting up a system to look for stolen coins.

Mark

MJPHELAN · March 8, 2004 5:00AM

Has anyone heard if Steve recovered any of these coins?

Stolen Registry Jeffersons!

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