Wow beckett must be real tough!?!?!

40ozman

Havlat BGS 7.5 = PSA 9



I got a laugh out of this one. Do all Beckett collectors have this opinion of PSA

coachh

Look at the corners on this card and tell me how they got a 10 from beckett.

10 or .10

rjeff34

I have many cards graded BGS 7-8 that are the same quality or better than other PSA 9 cards I own

KallMaloneSay

I have many cards graded BGS 7-8 that are the same quality or better than other PSA 9 cards I own

I've also dealt with several BGS 9 cards that are PSA 4-5 quality.

schr1st

That Ryan is scary...

goodriddance189

the subgrade system is misleading, if anything. each of the criteria carries a different grading weight, which causes confusion when you get a bgs 3.4 with subgrades of (8,9,2.5,7).

34GoudeyCollector

I think this card was graded after the Beckett Christmas Party...

Ken

ydsotter

One thing I have discovered is that quite a few dealers won't touch BGS/BVG graded stuff... The assumption that some dealers rally around psa to promote their own business interests doesn't apply in my experience...
When I tried unloading all of my BGS vintage graded cards at a FT WASH show... no one would touch it...
A pretty big dealer wouldn't even give me $150 cash or $125.00 in trade for a BGS 7 1961 Fleer Bill Russell... that was shoelessjoes-
The guy looked at the card carefully and just passed on it.

a few other dealers wouldn't even trade for it or my other bgs graded stuff.
I crossed a few over to sgc and was able to move them that day.

When I ebayed them, I got so much less than I paid... when I bought them they were 1/1's or 1/3's etc...
when BVG was born, my scarce highly graded vintage singles were suddenly commonplace and went for less than or equal to smr.

I am so mad at BGS... they were my first experience with graded cards... and as far as my eyes could tell, they were all undergraded. I thought BGS was so tough... I thought most of my 8's would be psa 9's...
First I tried selling or trading them with dealers... I received almost no interest... these were cards like BGS 7 61 fleer BK stars, and 8's or higher of cards like the Dr. J rc, magic bird, pete rose, bench, etc...

then, I sent them to psa to cross over. few crossed even and the majority that didn't came back as evidence of trimming.

some I crossed to SGC and others I merely eBayed.

anyways, I have posted this or the similar complaint more than a few times on this board... I am still angry at bgs... and feel very cheated by their introduction of BVG.

Vincecarder

I've seen cards go both way. Submitted PSA 8 and became BGS 9.5.....submitted BGS 8 and became PSA 10....

Kinda makes you wonder why do we pay all this cash when the grades are all over the place.....like throwing a dart at the wall with a number...."Hey I hit a 10 target...slab it up..."