eBay Fraud Alert...Beware!
uofa1285
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Fellow members,
This method may already be known to you but I want to share it with you just in case...I have copied and pasted two emails below from a person who I determined later was not the real seller...
"Hello and all the best!
I saw that you have bidded on 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color! recently. I want to inform you that I have one I am willing to sell this for 7000US$ shipping and handling fees included).I am a registered and serious member on eBay.Please check my feedback. Please excuse me if I have bothered you with this message and also please accept all my best.
Kind Regards
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Question from: stuffitystuff
Title of item: 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
Seller: uofa1285
Starts: Dec-31-03 15:00:00 PST
Ends: Jan-10-04 15:00:00 PST
Price: Currently $7,101.00
To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2214531592
Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com
<back to UFOA1285 now> Forum members...notice how they have ME as the seller? I am not, of course - I am a current underbidder. I did not notice this mistake until after I talked to the REAL seller on the phone today. Finally, here is an email response I received after I initally accepted the fake seller's above offer via email...
" For payment we can use MoneyGram .
Thanks
Doug Beaver <Doug.Beaver@4cornersonline.com> wrote:
I guess I never did answer your question...if you will allow me a modest examination period of 24 hours (once signed for), then I will accept your offer to buy for $7,000. I too am a serious high level toning buyer and will not return it unless the photos are (accidentally) less favorably representative than they appear in your auction.
Thanks and let me know. I can overnight you a cashier's check.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: stuffitystuff2000@yahoo.co.uk
To: Coins
Sent: 1/4/04 2:39 PM
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2214531592
Hello and all the best!
I saw that you have bidded on 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
recently. I want to inform you that I have one I am willing to sell this
for 7000US$ shipping and handling fees included).I am a registered and
serious member on eBay.Please check my feedback. Please excuse me if I
have bothered you with this message and also please accept all my best.
Kind Regards
--------------------
Question from: stuffitystuff
Title of item: 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
Seller: uofa1285
Starts: Dec-31-03 15:00:00 PST
Ends: Jan-10-04 15:00:00 PST
Price: Currently $7,101.00
To view the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2214531592
Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at
http://www.ebay.com
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<back to UOFA1285 now> - I have of course notified the real seller and eBay safeharbor at SPOOF@EBAY.COM. But I wanted to share this with you all right away. Be careful out there!
Doug
This method may already be known to you but I want to share it with you just in case...I have copied and pasted two emails below from a person who I determined later was not the real seller...
"Hello and all the best!
I saw that you have bidded on 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color! recently. I want to inform you that I have one I am willing to sell this for 7000US$ shipping and handling fees included).I am a registered and serious member on eBay.Please check my feedback. Please excuse me if I have bothered you with this message and also please accept all my best.
Kind Regards
--------------------
Question from: stuffitystuff
Title of item: 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
Seller: uofa1285
Starts: Dec-31-03 15:00:00 PST
Ends: Jan-10-04 15:00:00 PST
Price: Currently $7,101.00
To view the item, go to: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2214531592
Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at http://www.ebay.com
<back to UFOA1285 now> Forum members...notice how they have ME as the seller? I am not, of course - I am a current underbidder. I did not notice this mistake until after I talked to the REAL seller on the phone today. Finally, here is an email response I received after I initally accepted the fake seller's above offer via email...
" For payment we can use MoneyGram .
Thanks
Doug Beaver <Doug.Beaver@4cornersonline.com> wrote:
I guess I never did answer your question...if you will allow me a modest examination period of 24 hours (once signed for), then I will accept your offer to buy for $7,000. I too am a serious high level toning buyer and will not return it unless the photos are (accidentally) less favorably representative than they appear in your auction.
Thanks and let me know. I can overnight you a cashier's check.
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: stuffitystuff2000@yahoo.co.uk
To: Coins
Sent: 1/4/04 2:39 PM
Subject: Question for seller -- Item #2214531592
Hello and all the best!
I saw that you have bidded on 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
recently. I want to inform you that I have one I am willing to sell this
for 7000US$ shipping and handling fees included).I am a registered and
serious member on eBay.Please check my feedback. Please excuse me if I
have bothered you with this message and also please accept all my best.
Kind Regards
--------------------
Question from: stuffitystuff
Title of item: 1880 Proof Trade Dollar NGC PF 66 Color!
Seller: uofa1285
Starts: Dec-31-03 15:00:00 PST
Ends: Jan-10-04 15:00:00 PST
Price: Currently $7,101.00
To view the item, go to:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2214531592
Visit eBay, The World's Online Marketplace TM at
http://www.ebay.com
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly..."Ping" your friends today! Download Messenger Now
<back to UOFA1285 now> - I have of course notified the real seller and eBay safeharbor at SPOOF@EBAY.COM. But I wanted to share this with you all right away. Be careful out there!
Doug
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<< <i>I am a registered and serious member on eBay.Please check my feedback. >>
296 positives. 271 are from unique users.
7 neutrals. 4 were converted from users no longer registered .
9 negatives. 8 are from unique users.
This one has been registered since Jul 19, 1998. I wonder if this is a hacked account?
Russ, NCNE
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There is a board member here who was NARU'ed a few weeks ago.....hacked account...they didn't know until I asked what had made them NARU ( was watching their items to snipe and then they just went NARU).
A few other things have happened to others that I watch and that have been "honest" sellers for a few years....hacked accounts.
A lot of the scammers don't create scam ebay accounts...they hack real accounts to use the goodwill the seller has generated. Saw the same thing in a newspaper "expose" a couple of months ago. People doing that should be SHOT.
I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment
Ogden