Does This 1884-CC Morgan Look MS66 To You??

JMOORE

Purchased on TeleTrade........PCGS MS66



Jim

razorface1027

If it is, then PCGS is getting more and more leniant on grading CCs.

fountainheadgold

a solid 65

ccr

It has the frosty, satiny look of a 66. Nice looking, puffy cheek. The only concern is the jaw line, month/nose area, and neck. Maybe very, very minor ticks or just handling without gloves like in the obverse fields. Looks really good to me and looks like a winner that you`ll be pleased with.

Placid

Not to me if the picture is accurate. Strike is weak.
This my idea of a 66.

Deadhorse

If I submited it, it would come back a 63. I think it looks like a super 64, maybe 65. It's tough to tell with a picture.

66? Not from the picture I'm looking at. Beautiful coin though, regardless.

BigAl

I'm very curious, is it in an anacs ms66 holder? Nice luster (from pic) looks like a 65 to me; possibly a 64 on a very bad day.

stman

I don't believe the strike is weak on the first coin shown. And I don't feel the one placid shows is much better as far as marks or strike. I feel they are shot at different angles. First one in the thread is shot at an angle to show the marks, placids image probably has the same amount of marks you just don't see them as well. Just a thought here.

dollardude

Ditto to most of the above comments. Solid MS65 due to very slightly weak strike and marks.

JMOORE

Here is a larger pic.

Thanks for your opinions. It is to late to send it back to TeleTrade. Do you think this is a good candidate for the PCGS guarantee?

stman

I am of the opinion it's a technical MS65. I understand the strike is a bit weak but I don't think that's what holds it back. The marks hold it from 66 imo. But keep in mind the bigger you blow something up the worse it looks.

Dog97

It looks kinda ticky on the face for a 66.

dollardude

Jim, you have a very pretty coin. I would keep her if you like her. I looked at my 1884-CC PCGS MS64, and it's ALMOST as nice as yours (sorry, no pic). However, I think I would get a regrade by PCGS just to be sure.

techeff

64/65 depending on how "deep" the tick marks are... IMO

greghansen

Do you think this is a good candidate for the PCGS guarantee?

In response to your question, Yes, IMO it is a good candidate. Your talking about a $400 difference in market value between 66 & 65 so I think the cost of submitting for guarantee are worth the risk. If you decide to do so, please let us know the results. Good luck.

lava

I echo greghanson's sentiments. No way is it a 66, and maybe not even a 65. I would call PCGS on this one. It might help to show them some same date nicer 65's and very high end 64's. This one isn't a 66 in any year, but it is not even a decent `84-cc. Good luck.

BAJJERFAN

Well of course we all know that PCGS isn't perfect. I spect that many would agree that PCGS seems to be a bit more forgiving when grading Carson City minted Morgans, tho I have a few that I think they were too stingy on.