Care to guess how PCGS graded this coin?

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 12:52PM

historygeek · December 21, 2003 12:59PM

VF?

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:04PM

Nope.

wybrit · December 21, 2003 1:05PM

XF45

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:06PM

Nope.

JamminJ · December 21, 2003 1:09PM

I'll guess AU-50.

I'm now ready for my very own "nope"!
-JamminJ

spinaker2000 · December 21, 2003 1:10PM

OK," i'll be your huckelberry" AU50??

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:11PM

<< I'll guess AU-50.

I'm now ready for my very own "nope"! >>

Nope, that is you are correct so no nope for you.

MacCrimmon · December 21, 2003 1:12PM

Without being able to judge the lustre, gold is a tough call from just a scan (heck, they all are), and probably PCGS's most inconsistently graded metal.

Assuming the flatness to the curls is wear and not a blunt strike; considering that it apprears that the cheek, eyebrow and fields have a uniform, light circ. friction, I'll say XF45.

Either way, it's a nice original looking piece with that olde gold look. I see that rose tone in the peripheries! Nice.

JamminJ · December 21, 2003 1:14PM

<< Nope, that is you are correct so no nope for you.

>>

Cool, I was torn between AU-50 and AU-53. I guess even a broken clock is correct twice a day!

-JamminJ

wybrit · December 21, 2003 1:17PM

That means that jamminj wins aethelred's giveaway!!!

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:19PM

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<< Nope, that is you are correct so no nope for you.

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Cool, I was torn between AU-50 and AU-53. I guess even a broken clock is correct twice a day!

-JamminJ >>

Funny thing is that the former owner (a board member) cracked it from a PCGS AU-53 holder!

Proves PCGS does not know any more than we do.

JamminJ · December 21, 2003 1:20PM

<< That means that jamminj wins aethelred's giveaway!!!

>>

Wow, that will certainly brighten Christmas day at the JamminJ household!

I almost feel a little Brit collector peer pressure.
-JamminJ

MacCrimmon · December 21, 2003 1:29PM

<< cracked it from a PCGS AU-53 holder! >>

I told you they were inconsistent in UK milled gold (any metal for that matter).

Three points is the difference between eating a ham sandwich one day for lunch (AU-53), and a sack of bean burritos the next (AU-50).

There were Terner specimens which were undergraded by 2-3 points easy during his sale, some right on the money, and others which I thought were generous by a point. When they were generous, it was usually only a point. The early George milled stuff was all over the map grading wise, IMHO.

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:30PM

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<< That means that jamminj wins aethelred's giveaway!!!

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Wow, that will certainly brighten Christmas day at the JamminJ household!

I almost feel a little Brit collector peer pressure.
>>

O.K., I'll get that Guinea off in the mail to you Monday.

No need to send me your address beacuse I'm lying!

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 1:32PM

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<< cracked it from a PCGS AU-53 holder! >>

I told you they were inconsistent in UK milled gold (any metal for that matter).

Three points is the difference between eating a ham sandwich one day for lunch (AU-53), and a sack of bean burritos the next (AU-50).

There were Terner specimens which were undergraded by 2-3 points easy during his sale, some right on the money, and others which I thought were generous by a point. When they were generous, it was usually only a point. The early George milled stuff was all over the map grading wise, IMHO. >>

The thing about this coin is that no 1786 Guinea has been graded by NGC in any grade. There are only two graded higher and both are AU-58s (I think both of the 58s are/were Terner coins).

MacCrimmon · December 21, 2003 1:47PM

I concurred on the Terner 1786 as to AU-58 (from the old school EAC perspective). Tough call, but it had just the barest, barest friction on the cheek, IMO. Easily could have been a 61/62 coin on another day especially if you've ever seen the cr@p which passes in those grades for 5$ Eagles.

MacCrimmon · December 21, 2003 1:58PM

ODK, speaking of NGC Pops.....they are a joke as to keeping up to date. What gives? They graded a Specimen 1911 Swiss franc of mine in early Aug '03, and it still isn't in the tables. I'm not impressed with that.

JamminJ · December 21, 2003 2:20PM

<< O.K., I'll get that Guinea off in the mail to you Monday.

No need to send me your address beacuse I'm lying!

>>

Scrooge!

Still a fun "guess the grade" thread, hope you enjoy owning that beauty!
-JamminJ

SYRACUSIAN · December 21, 2003 3:15PM

<< I almost feel a little Brit collector peer pressure.
-JamminJ >>

Good one

cosmicdebris · December 21, 2003 7:06PM

Cool Iwas going to say Au 50 - 53 myself.

ajaan · December 21, 2003 9:56PM

AU 50

Aethelred · December 21, 2003 10:00PM

Good guess Ajaan!

newbiecollector · December 21, 2003 10:08PM

I will say AU 50. Now this only after reading all the posts, taking careful consideration, consulting my Guru charts, and making a wild guess.

Thank you very much for such a wonderful Christmas giveaway.

I bow to all who have helped me win this lovely coin.........

Merry Christmas!!!!!!!!!!!!!