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acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
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I always knew that card 191 had a variation where 214 could either be Tom or Dick Kelley...what I hadn't noticed is that this could just as easily been the mays neck/no-neck version.

Here's a pic


Regards,


Alan

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  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Cool! Thanks for showing that.
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Does the fact that Willie's neck is missing make for another variation?
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • qualitycardsqualitycards Posts: 2,811 ✭✭✭
    ACOWA - thats neat! Thanks for the info w/ scan.
    Question, does the no neck versions only have Dick Kelley?
    And the full neck only have Tomk Kelley, or does the no neck have both etc...
    With that said, which is more rare, thus more desirable...jay
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  • TreetopTreetop Posts: 1,474 ✭
    is there a "Harry" variation?

    someone had to say it......image and it looks like I beat Vargha to it!
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  • treadway1treadway1 Posts: 60
    I just checked and I have both variations - and they echo that of Acowa's - i.e. neckvs. none and which Kelly (Tom/Dick).

    Would be interseting to understand which is more scarce

    ED
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  • toppsguntoppsgun Posts: 787 ✭
    The Mays neck/Tom Kelley version is correct. The Mays no-neck/Dick Kelley is the scarcer variation, according to early 90s price guides, by a factor of 2-to-1.

    However, the population report shows only one (1) Tom Kelley ever graded and 110 Dick Kelley versions. If that's correct, I've got the 1-of-1!!image

    Or course, it's not correct. Some of the 110 are mislabeled and collectors don't know or don't care.
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    Here's another variation card that you might be interested in. I knew these existed but had never seen one graded or ungraded. It is the dreaded white smear variation (on his name) Not a pretty 8 BTW and I probably overpaid...but I had never seen one.

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    Regards,


    Alan
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    Alan -- That's actually a UFO. The rare "alien" version commands quite a premium among collectors of the paranormal.
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    I have seen 1 more of this card than I have seen UFO's. I definitely got "probed" on the price...so who knows?

    If anyone's interested in seeing how Beckett describes the variation, you can follow this link


    Regards,


    Alan
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    There's another variation on that card too. The position of Mays's cap in relation to the 3 is changed. I'm willing to bet that all 3 changes were made at once.

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  • 1967topps1967topps Posts: 459 ✭✭
    >>Of course, it's not correct. Some of the 110 are mislabeled and collectors don't know or don't care.

    Yeah, IMHO PSA is sloppy about variation labelling. Like if the submitter doesn't specify the variation
    the insert card doesn't mention it either.
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  • 1967topps1967topps Posts: 459 ✭✭
    >>Not a pretty 8 BTW and I probably overpaid...but I had never seen one.

    Hey, I tried, but you offered more. I had seen the variation before (have an ungraded one)
    but never in that condition.

    Which reminds me, since I check every Bolin that goes up, there's one seller
    who's got a ton of 67 PSA's and shows the same scan every time - because its the
    same PSA ref # which is not going to help him sell me any Bolin's - will be damned if I'm
    going to bid on every one just in case "it's the blob"
    ebay:1967topps
    1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
    Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
  • 1967topps1967topps Posts: 459 ✭✭
    >>There's another variation on that card too. The position of Mays's cap in relation to the 3 is changed

    OK above we see the cap touching the 3 on the Tom and not touching the 3 on the Dick Kelley variation.
    Hmm. I barely have any 191's handy (I keep the variations close to the PC while most of the
    cards are in another room) so can't comment in the 3rd variation. Anyone know Dino? He seems to be
    up on the variations.
    ebay:1967topps
    1967and 1973 Topps baseball wantlists (any condition) welcome. Once had the #14 ATF 1967 set. Yet another collector like skylaneflyer, gimel1 who made it to the completion of 1967 only to need the money more than the company of 609 close friends.
    Looking for oddball Norm Cash and Cleon Jones stuff, and 1956 team cards
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