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Proposal: PSA Sponsored Dealer(s) of the Year Award voted by collectors

Sadly, there's a lot of energy focused on the bad things in the hobby. Some of it is warranted, but a lot of it isn’t. One bright spot in the hobby for collectors is the Registry Awards. This recognizes many collectors’ achievements made over a given year.

I believe another way to shine some positive light on the hobby is for the PSA Registry Collectors to recognize the best dealers in the hobby. Therefore, I’d like to propose that the Registry Collectors, with the help of PSA, come up with a way of nominating and voting a 2003 Dealer of the Year Award. One other idea is instead of having just one award, we give out 10 or 20 as a “2003 PSA Registry Collector’s Seal of Approval Award”. These select dealers would receive certificates. I believe it would be best if only a limited quantity of the “Approval” awards were given out so that there is some prestige in receiving the award. If this is successful, it could be made an annual event.

Any ideas on exactly how to nominate dealers and then vote for them? We could do it as a Forum Poll, but there are some drawbacks, mainly having trolls hijack the voting, etc. Perhaps PSA can sponsor the voting by accepting votes to a special e-mail account they’ve set up and accepting votes from Registry Members only.

If such an awards program takes off, I think it would be very beneficial to the hobby at large since it would encourage all dealers to improve their service to the collectors. So what do you guys think?

Hopefully Joe Orlando will respond and give us some feedback on this idea.

Comments

  • I think that's a great idea. I'm in.

    JEB.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    I think it is a great idea. Maybe the person can post their vote on this thread.

  • KING KELLOGGKING KELLOGG Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭
    Dan...

    That's a terrific idea!!!

    Highlighting the dealers that "really do" want their business and the hobby around them to grow, is a huge step forward for all of us. All the registry members have something to gain by using professional, honest, and quality dealers.

    Count me in!!!

    Suggestion:
    PSA should create a "logo" for the winning dealers. Something they could use in their marketing (advertising, flyers, business cards.......)

    I can think of 1/2 dozen dealers that deserve this special recognition...





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  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    I'm in...maybe BJ or Gayle can agree to count the votes.


    Regards,


    Alan
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    I think it's a great idea, VCBC (Vintage and Classic Baseball Collector) has done this for years and I've found some great new sources, as well as a few to avoid. They do it on a number of categories (grading, knowledge, inventory, friendliness, pricing etc) and I think this would be more beneficial than a simple thumbs up or thumbs down.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • I agree - good idea! Now for some suggested parameters:

    Let's keep it simple: limit it to one award and not have numerous "seals of approval."

    The in-progress voting results should not be visible like in previous polls here. This will avoid anyone being influenced by the voting trend.

    The eligible contestants will consist of the "Featured Dealers" and "Authorized Dealers" listed on PSA's web site.

    The voting period will be two weeks, and PSA will announce the winner here in mid-January.

    PSA could write an article in SMR about the winner; the article would contain their picture and comments from voters on why this dealer is so highly regarded.

    Skycap

  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Great idea. I have dealt with Jay from Quality Cards on occasion and each time the results were far and beyond expectations. Mickey is someone I have just recently started dealing with and am pleased. Levi 707 is another dealer that ships ASAP and is always professional.

    I will nominate these three.
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • 1420sports: This thread is NOT to nominate anyone; it's to ask what we all think of the idea. Please edit your message to remove your nominations.

    Skycap
  • PlayBallPlayBall Posts: 463 ✭✭✭


    << <i>1420sports: This thread is NOT to nominate anyone; it's to ask what we all think of the idea. Please edit your message to remove your nominations. >>



    I must have missed the voting that put you in charge of this idea.
    Bernie Carlen



    Currently collecting.....your guess is as good as mine.
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    If its one dealer why not just give it to Jay now who will certainly win for all the obvious reasons including that he is very visible on the boards and never says or does anything confrontational and give the runner up to the guy who sells the raw cards at the shows--Joe Tauriello.

    I will be publishing my annual Top 10 Dealers of 2003 list on Monday.

    Jim
  • Bernie,

    Please read again what Dude (Dan Markel) asked for on this thread: "Any ideas on exactly how to nominate dealers and then vote for them?"

    He didn't ask people to vote here!

    Skycap
  • Well, I would have to agree with Jay Wolt. He is one of the best. It is very nice working with a dealer that when you buy something from them, if they are local or not they will bring the cards with them to shows for you to pick up. image

    Another that I have had a wonderful pleasure dealing with is Will Hays. I think he mostly does all of his work through EBAY. He is too easy to work with.

    Just my 2 cents.

    Rob Ruth
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    Rob,

    I like Will Hays too. He used to be withy Sports Cards Plus but now he is slummin on ebay.
    Saving my top 3 for my Monday list.

    Jim
  • aro13aro13 Posts: 1,961 ✭✭✭
    I also think it is a great idea. I have nothing but good things to say about Will Hays also, fast, reliable service even to Canada. However, I did not know he used to work with SportsCards Plus, when did he leave there?
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    Sorry Skycap image, I didn't realize this stuff offends you. I am sure Dan does not mind either that I broke the rules of this thread. I know that each and every PSA thread always stays on track and never ever goes into another direction. I am deeply sorry and I hope I did not offend Jay, Levi or Mickey by nominating them on an unauthorized and unofficial nomination thread.

    Please bear with me, as I am a jackass
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • LOL Neal................image
  • DavalilloDavalillo Posts: 1,846 ✭✭
    I will guess that he left Sports Cards Plus about 3-3 1/2 years ago.

    I think his presence is missed there. Every time I get a call from them I cringe because the sales guy always butchers the names of the players. I called Mastronet and put a bid on a 52T Kluzewski and the guy who answered the phone just butchered his name. He said he was a computer programmer not a sports fan.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Hi. I've been reading the comments. I'm glad to see that in some form we are all behind the idea. I really didn't want to get the nomination process going yet. Quite honestly, I'd like PSA to run it from start to finish. Right now we shouldn't be focusing who, but more on suggestions on how many awards and how the nominations and voting should be done. I still think there should be 10 or so "Seal of High Approval Awards" because I don't believe one dealer stands head and shoulders above the rest. Just my opinion though.
  • How about this.

    Most customer friendly dealer.

    Since Davalillo mentioned it. Most sports knowledgable dealer.

    an award for the dealer with the most aggressive buy/selling prices image Maybe this could generate dealer to raise their buying / drop their selling prices. image I can dream can't I. image

    Best shipping or quickest turn around dealer.

    Best over all dealer.

    Best auction house / dealer.

    What do these ideas sound like. Please pick them apart if necessary.

    Rob
  • dude (Dan Markel):

    Thanks for reaffirming the intent of your original message. Unfortunately, some people didn't comprehend what they read. You clearly asked for ideas on how to do this, yet some were already giving the awards out! You are to be commended for coming up with an outstanding idea.

    Skycap
  • 1420sports1420sports Posts: 3,473 ✭✭✭
    relax skycap - no biggie and it's the weekend. enjoy
    collecting various PSA and SGC cards
  • Will do, 1420 !

    Skycap
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    The in-progress voting results should not be visible like in previous polls here. This will avoid anyone being influenced by the voting trend.

    You can't see the results unless you have already voted.
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    I sent Joe O an e-mail about this so hopefully we'll get a reply at some point.
  • NickMNickM Posts: 4,895 ✭✭✭
    Vargha - you can if someone posts them.

    Nick
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  • I think the results shouldn't be made known until PSA announces it. Otherwise, there's no suspense!

    Skycap


  • Great Idea!!!

    I think that it would generate a much needed data base of honest hard working dealers that both buyers and sellers would greatly benefit from.I would say that there should be only one vote allowed from one ISP if that is possible.

    Vic

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  • I missed you, Vic. I was actually thinking about you in the past day or so - regretting that I never made it up to visit you in the past couple of months. I'm still going to the Orlando show in January. Let me know if you'll be there.

    JEB.
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    a much needed data base of honest hard working dealers

    well then, .......... this won't take long at all will it ?? image
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    I received an e-mail from Joe Orlando regarding this subject and he said it will be given serious consideration. image
  • acowaacowa Posts: 945 ✭✭
    Dan,

    I like your idea but I would like to take it one step farther. What we really need is a GSCA. What's a GSCA? Graded Sportscard Collectors Association.

    A GSCA could be a sounding board for promoting the good, exposing the bad, and educating and informing collectors at all stages.

    In your example, a GSCA could give unbiased, non political, awards if the membership desired. We wouldn't have to worry if the largest submitter might not like the results. PSA is my preferred grading company, however, with PSA handling the voting there would always be the potential conflict of interest.

    Also, a GSCA wouldn't be tied to one grading company. I honestly think it might be an bridge to stop all of the infighting between the PSA, SGC, BGS camps...so we can work together to make things better. With the talent that I have met through just the annual dinner that we've started, I am confident we could make this a worthwhile organization.


    Regards,


    Alan
  • murcerfanmurcerfan Posts: 2,329 ✭✭
    Acowa.
    I agree with you and have seen the need for a non-profit National Sportscard Collectors Association for years (but would not limit it to graded cards only).
    The idea is usually scoffed at and those I have mentioned it to point to the EPSCC and GBSCC and how these clubs exist mainly to "sponsor" shows and have a very limited number of members.

    I am willing to volunteer some time to advance the idea further, as i see the potential for such an association to benefit the hobby in a big way.
  • would these dealers have to be "psa authorized" dealers to qualify or could anyone qualify? and what about very small dealers? i just figure they will not stand a chance because of the mile high or dsl sized dealers out there that everyone assumes are best because of sheer size.


  • Acowa,

    I agree with Mercerfan and you 100%.I would also be willing to give of my time as well.I do think that Mercerfan is right in that this should not be limited to graded cards but should actually be inclusive to all sports card dealers.I would like to think that it should include dealers related to sports collecting on the whole as but maybe we as mainly card collectors should concentrate on helping to get out the word on quality card dealers.It is an interesting topic and one that I think we should put some time and effort into.This concept may eventually be looked upon in the future as one that gave direction to a hobby that certainly can use a database of positive honest dealers no matter which grading company they chose to promote or if they chose to promote ungraded cards only.


    Dan,

    KUDOS for getting this idea out and starting a dialogue.I am quite confident your name would be among the top dealers( although I know that this was not your intention).I do however,think that this should be an independent organization of all grading companies so that it will encompass as many feedback participants as possible.Some will not see the positive side if this was connected with one grading company or another,regardless of which company it might be.

    Vic
    Vic
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  • shouldabeena10shouldabeena10 Posts: 1,357 ✭✭✭
    Great idea...

    However, I agree with the posts about it not being connected to and sponsored by PSA... unfortunately, if it was done that way, it would probably get tainted and be viewed more as an ebay "power seller" award.

    I think it would hold much more meaning (to the sellers and collectors) if it was done more as a "people's choice" type of award.... chosen and given out by the collectors only.

    Mike
    "Vintage Football Cards" A private Facebook Group of 4000 members, for vintage football card trading, sales & auctions. https://facebook.com/groups/vintagefootball/
  • I think it would be handy to put together an online database of dealers (like someone kind of mentioned), but then allow people report feedback (rate them on some type of scale). This would help if you were going out of town and were looking for a good shop to go to, or simply shops that are in your area that you weren't aware of. The feedback could be collated and awards could be given...

    I could donate my services for the project above or the "Sportscard Collectors Association". I think this would be a good step forward in saving the ol' brick n mortar shops.

    Justin
    Currently collecting the Nolan Ryan Basic and Topps Player sets.

    NAXCOM
  • dudedude Posts: 1,454 ✭✭
    Acowa -- I agree that an independent collectors association, separate from any affiliation with a company of any sort has it's merits. My time is very limited so I don't know what I can offer in terms of time. I'm certain that if it is structured correctly, myself and many other collectors would certainly like to be a part of the group.
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