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Eliasberg confusion

RobgettyRobgetty Posts: 1,112
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OK, I am looking through some of the Eliasberg sets that PCGS
is "recreating". I go to 1900 mint sets, and several entries say
that they are estimated grades of MS65 for coins, and then say
that Eliasberg actually had a choice gem proof.

OK, if he had a choice gem proof, put that in the proof sets, not
the mint sets. What is that statement implying?? To me, I would
read it as a statement that he didn't have the business strike, but
he only had the proof. Since I know that isn't true, I am left
confused as to what PCGS intended by inserting that statement
next to several coins. Anybody have a guess?? image
Robert Getty - Lifetime project to complete the finest collection of 1872 dated coins.

Comments

  • KeyrockKeyrock Posts: 961 ✭
    I think the thought was he could have bought it if he wanted to. During his era there wasn't much of a distinction between the MS and PR coins, one coin covered the bases. I do agree that it creates a weakness in the registry. If they need to make the notation on the coins then take the set out of the rankings (ATF and CF) and put his assumed grade in the series description (or break down his coins into PR and MS coins and place them in the correct category).

    I feel they are comparing apples to oranges by adding in the assumed grades since they are different beast.

    Rich
  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    i think these sets shouldve been left for a fantasy page, as they have no business
    here in my opinion...PCGS says they were for reference, but in essence they affect
    the grades of the sets around them.
    image

    Go BIG or GO HOME. ©Bill
  • LakesammmanLakesammman Posts: 17,402 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Why not the Bill Gates collection? He could afford every "top pop" in existence. If PCGS is going to create fantasy collections, why not go all the way??
    "My friends who see my collection sometimes ask what something costs. I tell them and they are in awe at my stupidity." (Baccaruda, 12/03).I find it hard to believe that he (Trump) rushed to some hotel to meet girls of loose morals, although ours are undoubtedly the best in the world. (Putin 1/17) Gone but not forgotten. IGWT, Speedy, Bear, BigE, HokieFore, John Burns, Russ, TahoeDale, Dahlonega, Astrorat, Stewart Blay, Oldhoopster, Broadstruck, Ricko, Big Moose.
  • RobgettyRobgetty Posts: 1,112
    I have no objection to them putting in historical sets to the
    "all-time finest" if we are going to define all-time as actually
    forever, and not the length of time that the set registry has
    been going. I also don't have a problem with estimated
    grades by professional graders who saw the coins during a
    auction and took notes. My only gripe is plugging a coin into
    a mint state category if it was actually a proof. If we don't
    have any info as to a BU coin, then leave it blank. That is the
    only fair way to do it, not just aribitrarily plug a MS65 in. Maybe
    this is one of those things that sounds good in theory but will
    be too much of a hassle in practice.
    Robert Getty - Lifetime project to complete the finest collection of 1872 dated coins.
  • NicNic Posts: 3,382 ✭✭✭✭✭
    I love Barber halves. The Clapp/Eliasberg set was awesome. He had no m.s. P mints which are rare in high grade. No credit should be given for his proofs. K

    My 1866 Philly Mint Set

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