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purelyPSApurelyPSA Posts: 712 ✭✭
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I'm a big fan of irony, so this auction really caughy my eye: Returned from PSA as "miscut"? Checking the winning bidder, I'd guess not for long!

In reality though, this really pisses me off. I saw a "Gem 10" Mantle from PRO (like a 57 or 58 I believe) sell for like 900 bucks. I wish I could do something to stop this clown. He's hosing people right and left - people with money but no experience in grading cards - which are just the people who, instead of getting burned and foregoing the whole grading thing entirely, could be added to the backbone of the hobby. Infuritating.

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  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    They will be regraded as PRO 9.5 "Re-cut".
  • purelyPSApurelyPSA Posts: 712 ✭✭
    He's going to double his money. At least. Unbelieveable. Well, maybe he'll have an interesting conversation with St. Peter eventually, because no one seems to be able to stop PRO, or greedy bums like this, from screwing things up.
  • VarghaVargha Posts: 2,392 ✭✭
    It won't be with Peter.
  • joedeljoedel Posts: 91
    When cards are returned from PSA as "miscut", PSA is not saying they are trimmed. The edges may be slightly wavy or the reverse may be 95/5 of worse. PSA is NOT saying these cards are trimmed but have been miscut at the Topps (or Bowman) factory when originally produced. If the cards appeared trimmed, PSA would have said "evidence of trimming".
  • GoSoxBoSoxGoSoxBoSox Posts: 1,103
    Am I crazy or can you see right throught the supposed PSA label?

    Look closely. It seems he laid a sticker over top of another label.

    Maybe it's a label he put on the submission?
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
  • beefcake210beefcake210 Posts: 116


    << <i>Am I crazy or can you see right throught the supposed PSA label?

    Look closely. It seems he laid a sticker over top of another label.

    Maybe it's a label he put on the submission? >>



    Yes - probably the label he printed out to put on the card holder.
  • joedeljoedel Posts: 91
    It does appear that the tag is over another PSA label, but that larger white label is also standard on card which has been returned to the submitter by PSA. The label underneath has printing that appears to say "1965 Topps #350 Mickey Mantle", which are are the cards in question.

    In my previous thread I was mainly trying to indicate what PSA procedures and policies were, and not to gauge whether or not a particular seller's motives or intentions were. With this seller at 100% feedback, it seems he has not had any complaints from buyers. Also, the seller's other ungraded cards look OK.
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    I have purchased from this seller before , I bought a gorgeous 72 wax box before the flood of them came on to the market. He is top notch and I would not suspect him of doing anything funny. When I bought the box , he even offered to send it to me before I paid and we had never done transaction before. He offers a no questions asked return policy so i doubt he is playing with the labels. looking at the mantles, the one on the left must be way off on the back as the front looks pretty good.

    I think this original post was directed at the buyer moving them to pro , please correct me if not mistaken.
  • GoSoxBoSoxGoSoxBoSox Posts: 1,103
    packCollector,

    If the card was simply miscut than it would get an MC qualifier from PSA. I've never seen that lable as a reason not to grade a card? I'd have to agree it's questionable or maybe PSA mis-labled the sleeve.
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    A couple of years ago, I submitted a 1968 Ryan rookie card that I personally had since I took it out of the pack in 1968 (at the time, Koosman was the up and coming star).

    PSA sent the card back as not graded due to a miscut. I will check tonight to see if the label is identical, but the same thing actually did happen to me. And I dont believe I requested no qualifiers either. It was my very first freebie submission a few years back and I didnt question it just out of lack of knowledge. Its always been one I should probably try again.

    Keith
  • packCollectorpackCollector Posts: 2,786 ✭✭✭
    N-8 Miscut - This term is used when the factory cut is an abnormal cut. The grading fees are returned.

    I have had a card come back with this designation and I really didn't know why, they sent a voucher for the grading fee. I still have the card and it still may be in the holder, I will check tonight. It was a cheap card so I didn't even pay much attention to it.
  • srs1asrs1a Posts: 398 ✭
    It is my understanding that the N-8 miscut refers to a factory miscut where (for example) the sheet may have moved while it was being cut. It is my understanding that a factory miscut card can have a bulge in the side or a "flair" -- but the side with the miscut is either not straight or not parallel to the opposite side.

    The MC qualifier is something else completely.

    If you want to see something really interesting take a look at the other auctions that the winner of the Mantle cards has recently won -- I had no idea that this "gentleman" was using the same ID (IDs?) to buy on eBAY. I wonder how many of these low-grade cards/qualified cards will re-appear looking razor sharp and pack fresh.image
    Dr S. of the Dead Donkeys MC
  • purelyPSApurelyPSA Posts: 712 ✭✭
    You guys have all missed the point.

    The seller is obviously a standup guy, because he mentioned the miscut in his auction where a lesser guy would just have dumped them on someone unsuspecting. The buyer, on the other hand, is a notorious card doctor. My point was those cards will be trimmed up by the buyer, encapsulated in PRO holders, and back on Ebay within a month. And, based on the decent deal he got, he'll probably be able to sell these fantastic PRO cards for at least double what he paid. It's the buyer who's the shady one, not the seller.
  • GoSoxBoSoxGoSoxBoSox Posts: 1,103


    << <i>You guys have all missed the point.

    The seller is obviously a standup guy, because he mentioned the miscut in his auction where a lesser guy would just have dumped them on someone unsuspecting. The buyer, on the other hand, is a notorious card doctor. My point was those cards will be trimmed up by the buyer, encapsulated in PRO holders, and back on Ebay within a month. And, based on the decent deal he got, he'll probably be able to sell these fantastic PRO cards for at least double what he paid. It's the buyer who's the shady one, not the seller. >>




    You're correct. I missed the point completely and thought you were speaking of the seller. I didn't realize the buyer was a noted scam man. If that's true somebody's gonna get ripped. You should watch his auctions for a while and fill us in on his turn around prices realized. It'll surely make us all sick.
    There is a fine line between "hobby" and "mental illness"
  • srs1asrs1a Posts: 398 ✭
    I think I got the point...and look at other recent auctions that the winner has won. Pretty scary.

    What will these look like when they reappear on eBAY?
    Dr S. of the Dead Donkeys MC
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