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THE 1938-1964 JEFFERSON NICKEL SERIES: A LOOK BACK AT 2003

As 2003 comes to a close, I was thinking about all the great 1938-1964 Jefferson Nickels PCGS slabbed in 2003. There was so much talk at the beginning of the year of the proliferation of high grade coins to be slabbed at PCGS this year - not to mention the "warnings" to collectors about "chasing" the low pop specimens.

The amazing thing is all I could come up with were (3) super (Gem or better grade) coins slabbed THIS ENTIRE YEAR!! As amazing as it sounds, I do not recall PCGS slabbing any other incredible high grade Jeffs other than the three coins I am about to mention!! I just spoke with Dave Schweitz about this issue and he also could not recall any other important Gem or better grade MS Jeffs from 1938-1964 that were slabbed ALL YEAR!!

Collectors - please include any additional coins here on the thread that were not mentioned. But, even if an entire "handful" of great coins were slabbed in 2003, isn't that amazing that so few key date MS Jeffs were actually slabbed in 2003 considering the RECORD submissions to PCGS! Have all the great coins dried up? Are dealers simply too busy to submit these five cent coins that would be worth multi-thousands if they grade high? Were the "warnings" to avoid the low pop key date coins misplaced?

THE (3) LANDMARK COINS PCGS SLABBED IN 2003 IN THE 1938-1964 JEFFERSON SERIES.

1. 1943(p): PCGS-MS68FS: Submitted by Dave Schweitz earlier this year (MS68 from our boards) - this War Nickel with the lowest underpop is IMHO possibly the neatest MS68FS Jeff thus far graded as it is an immensely rare coin in this grade.

2. 1943(d): PCGS-MS68FS. Submitted by myself earlier this year. - this War nickel is the prettiest high grade War nickel to ever get into a PCGS holder IMHO. A true masterpiece.

3. 1954(p): PCGS-MS66FS. Submitted by Dave Schweitz earlier this year. This became the pop 2 coin of a very tough "p" mint Jeff from the 1950's.

NOT A SINGLE MS67FS COIN OF GREAT INTEREST WAS GRADED FOR THE ENTIRE YEAR THAT I RECALL.

No question, this is also a very interesting series of coins. image

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    One of these years soon there won't be any later date monsters getting slabbed either.

    In the future it will be the lower grade coins getting sent in as their values get up to the
    point that it becomes worthwhile to grade them.
    Tempus fugit.
  • MJPHELANMJPHELAN Posts: 782 ✭✭✭
    Not a super gem, but I noticed a ms 62FS 1942 D/D was graded this year.

    If the owner is unhappy with it, I would be happy to take it off his/her hands!

    Mark
    Mark
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭
    PCGS has not graded a MS67 Liberty Nickel (w/cents) in over 5 years. People do not like nickels that much. Who cares. Who ever said a bunch of 38-64 Jefferson's were going to show up anyways. I don't recall a bunch of warnings about them.

    I hate self serving paper thin threads like this. Of the RECORD number of submissions, how many were 38-64 Jeffersons? How many were submitted last year? If you are going to start running numbers, at least provide some. When did the ONLY FS 1960 and 1961 get slabbed (it could have been last year, but not before). I hate cladking like fantasy statistics.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Dbldie: Thanks for coming around once a month to share your "valuable" opinion. I was wondering what took you so long this time.

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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,701 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Some people have difficulty with big numbers like "2" two. (the number right after "1" one.)

    Here's the only good in depth kind of threadDEEP COIN

    All other threads must be derailed.
    Tempus fugit.
  • melikecoinsmelikecoins Posts: 1,154 ✭✭
    dbldie55
    It was fall 2002 that the first 1961 D in FS was slabed

    There are still no 67,68-D's ,69-D, or 69-S with FS

    Glen
    I don't buy slabs I make them
  • The 43-P was a rare coin in 67FS at the start of the year but is now more common that the 42-P Ty2 in 67FS. I think this is significant, once a $1000+ coin now it should be affordable in the $400 range. I made an AU55 42 D/D image Its has FS's but is slightly circulated.
  • wondercoinwondercoin Posts: 16,979 ✭✭✭✭✭
    "How much is a pop 3 coin or a pop 2 coin? How do they tone?
    are they gorgeous toners like silver or like the buffalo nickels?"

    Craig: Prices vary depending upon myriad factors, but, it is possible to locate pop 2-3 coins for around $6k, or so (less likely for key date coins of course). The war nickels can tone beautifully. The non-war nickels are exceedingly scarce in pretty toned high grade. I believe the "key date" 1939(d) in PCGS -MS67FS (pop 3 with 1940 reverse) will appear in the the Heritage FUN sale, along with at least one other pop 2-3 coin from the early Jeff set. image

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  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>There are still no 67,68-D's ,69-D, or 69-S with FS

    Glen >>



    Of course, this thread is about 38-64's, not 65-date coins.

    I would think '04 will be the year for the Jefferson's as the reverse is going away (hopefully forever). It will be interesting to look back again a year from now.
    Collector and Researcher of Liberty Head Nickels. ANA LM-6053
  • dbldie55dbldie55 Posts: 7,735 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i>Dbldie: Thanks for coming around once a month to share your "valuable" opinion. I was wondering what took you so long this time.

    Wondercoin image >>



    I had just got home. image
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  • I don't follow the pop reports but I would guess few suberb Deep Cameo proof Jeffersons from those years were made either. Cameo proof Jeffs from '38 to '42 are not exactly falling out of trees either.

    Proof Jeffs can tone blue like Buffalo nickels. I don't see as many gold toned ones as I do Buffs but they are there.

    Here is an image of a toned Mint State Jefferson from the Applachian hoard:

    image
  • keetskeets Posts: 25,351 ✭✭✭✭✭
    hey Mitch

    what about my 1940/R.38 that's in for grading now? it should be posted as a PR67 which would be a pop 7 coin. all bias aside, i really can't imagine any of the other coins looking like this one even if it's only holdered as a PR66. i'll link it up when they post the grades, most likely early next week. the picture doesn't do it justice due to my continued inability to capture color as it appears. it's mark free, haze free and a nice strike with the only weakness at the sixth step below the third pillar. the actual color in the obverse fields and above the dome is blue, which gives it a cameo appearance sans the frost.

    al h.image

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  • WondoWondo Posts: 2,916 ✭✭✭
    48 hrs
    Wondo

  • pontiacinfpontiacinf Posts: 8,915 ✭✭
    Im happy this series is getting attention now...goes to show I was right in turning my attention there 3 years ago, and Ive amassed quite a few high grade varities, heck got some from Mitch
    image

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  • Good luck on that super 40 rev of 38 Keets!
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