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1876 Greek gold set

Greece is not a gold-producing country and its economics have always been a problem to the various monarchs and administrations.
As a result, there are very few gold coins that were minted for circulation purposes (transactions were mostly done with foreign gold);
these include the 1833 gold 20drs (King Otto) , the 1876 gold set (to the Latin Union standards by King George I) and the 1884A 20 drs gold, the only gold coin ever to reach a 6 digit mintage .
Some trial strikes, patterns etc. also took place during that period .

This is the 1876 gold set, illustrated from my personal collection:
minted in Paris (A mintmark) , engraved by A.D. Barre (chief engraver of Paris,Strasbourg and Bordeaux mints).
All coins have a small to very small mintage (from 76 to 37000) and an even smaller survival rate,due to the fact that they were legal-tender in all LU member-countries.

The name of the engraver is on the obverse of the coins (truncation) , spelled as BAPPE (since P=R in Greek).

5 drs (drachmai) gold, .0467 oz AGW, 1.61 gr, 0.900 fineness,17 mm, mintage 9294 , KM 47, PCGS MS63
King George I, obverse young head to right ,legend, date and mintmark , reverse value encircled by floral emblem,
a design almost identical to the French gold 5 francs of Napoleon III :

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10 drs gold, .0933 oz AGW. 3.22 gr, 0.900 fineness,19 mm,mintage 18959,KM 48, PCGS MS62
design similar to 5 drs (orizontal hairlines on the holder)

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20 drs gold, .1867 oz AGW, 6.45 gr, 0.900 fineness,21 mm, mintage 37362,KM 49, ANACS AU55
obverse as above, reverse Greek coat of arms, legend and value.
Although the coin with the bigger mintage of the series, it is the most difficult to locate in mint state condition.
Nothing's missing under the date (obv); just poor scanning.

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These three conclude the small values.
The two bigger values (50 drs, 100 drs) have been minted in very small numbers,
and the new aged portrait of the King (always by Barre) appears on the obverse.
I'm still waiting for the 100drs (size+weight of a double-eagle), but at least I've managed to locate a superb 50 drs

50 drs gold, .4667 oz AGW, 16.13 gr, 0.900 fineness,28 mm, mintage 182,KM 50, NGC AU58
obverse King George old head to right,legend ,date and mintmark, reverse Greek coat of arms,legend and value.


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The little anchor on the reverse, is the chief engraver's (Barre) privy mintmark,
and the bee is the privy mintmark of R.de Bussiere, director of the Paris mint at the time.
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Comments

  • Beautiful..........!!!!
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  • spoonspoon Posts: 2,798 ✭✭✭
    Wow! That's awesome image
    Only 76 pieces for the 100 drs?! Good luck on that. How many other folks are there with such complete modern Greek collections? I imagine not many?
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Nice set of gold coinsimage
    Bill

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  • theboz11theboz11 Posts: 6,576 ✭✭✭
    Gold! always a favorite ,no matter the country. Very nice, AND rare,,,great comboimageimage
  • Very nice Dimitri, you see and hear little of Greek gold, I'm sure it's a challenge to put this set together. But if there is no gold indigenous to
    Greece then it would all have to be brought in. The large gold and silver finds in the U.S. produced tons of gold and sliver coins from the mid
    1800s into the early 1900s, much of it lanquished in valuts for decades, and much of it was melted for bullion value.

    I'm sure that happened in Greece as well.

    Again nice, thanks for sharing.

    Glenn
  • Excellent coins, Dimitri!

    I understand, that also in that thread one of them is for giveaway?image
    N. N.
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Dimitri-very pretty coins! The strike on the 20 drs is a beauty. How difficult are these coins in the superior condition these are in?
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  • trozautrozau Posts: 3,455 ✭✭✭
    Beautiful set! Thanks for sharing. Goodluck on the 100drs. image
    trozau (troy ounce gold)
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  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭


    << <i>How many other folks are there with such complete Greek collections? I imagine not many? >>



    Spoon, thanks for the compliment , but quite frankly, my collection is far from being complete. This is my third try to put it together; I've focused on quality, having experienced a bitter taste from selling lower grade coins at less than half of their buyprice,and I'm trying to use my previous experience (mainly mistakes) on grading and choosing the coins. I believe I'm 60-65% , but the rest is all tough dates, most of which virtually impossible in unc.I just wasn't around when these coins were more easy to locate image

    As for people with really amazing collections,there are certainly more than I'd have imagined, some of them in the States who won't hesitate to jump on the plane and outbid us all ,everytime a true rarity shows up.



    << <i>much of it lanquished in vaults for decades, and much of it was melted for bullion value.I'm sure that happened in Greece as well. >>



    It certainly did Glenn, but I think that the gold was imported .To my knowledge, the only place in Greece where gold has been detected, remains unexploited until now,due to the huge cost and uncertain results.



    << <i>The strike on the 20drs is a beauty.How difficult are these coins in the superior condition they are in? >>



    All of them are rare in this condition and the 50drs is RR with tendency to RRR.
    As a matter of fact I see many more 100 drs offered (maybe way too many for a 76 mintage) than 50s.

    I also agree that this 20 drs is a very eye-appealing coin.
    I forgot to mention that all the above coins (as with 90%+ of my coins) have been bought raw and submitted later.
    This particular 20 drs is a second purchase, because I already had one in PCGS AU58. I've paid more than twice the amount of the 58 for the one shown above,because it was a much nicer coin. I think it deserved a 58,while the other is way overgraded .



    << <i>Good luck on the 100 drs >>



    Thanks trozau; I'm not sure that it's a question of luck though image
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  • Zowie!! What a neat collection.image
    Shep
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  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    Dimitri,

    Nice set of gold! image Truly a grouping which you can't just order from a stock list. Keep us abreast when you find that 100 drs.

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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,570 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Awesome, all of them.

    I shudder to think of what that 50 dr piece set you back.

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  • newsmannewsman Posts: 2,658 ✭✭✭
    An amazing set, Dimitri -- it must be very satisfying to be able to put together something so rare and beautiful. image

    Chuck

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  • shirohniichanshirohniichan Posts: 4,992 ✭✭✭
    That's a great set! Thanks for sharing the photos. Now if I can only finish my US 1876 year set...
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Looks great! Funny to think of the Greeks having a king George!
  • AskariAskari Posts: 3,713
    That is truly a fantastic set, Dimitri!! image There is no better way to learn the market for what you collect than competing for the finest attainable quality. Even with Midas' bank account and Athena's wisdom, the hunt can still turn heavily on luck ... so keep Fortuna honored in your collecting. image
    Askari



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