Poll: who would be in favor of a Forum that barred BST action and dealer fighting?

DMWJR · November 22, 2003 12:32PM

Let's have it! I vote yes. I will take this to PCGS and get it done if there is enough support.

IrishMike · November 22, 2003 12:45PM

Doug count me in, we now have the patients running the asylum.

DMWJR · November 22, 2003 12:47PM

What happened to posts like,

" I know where 3 of the 6 graded PR67 1936 quaraters are. Who knows where the other three are and can they be bought?"

DMWJR · November 22, 2003 12:50PM

I miss seeing phrases like . . . "That coin's in strong hands and we won't see it again for 10 years!"

That's the kind REGISTRY information that would be valuable to those putting together top sets.

For instance, I know where most of the high grade early Proof Lincolns are. I would be very interested if the others exist and when they might come up for sale.

dpoole · November 22, 2003 2:08PM

Doug,

I understand your ire, and I like those other posts, too. The fact is, though, that such posts appear rarely. You're apparently presuming that this occurs because of BST activity and dealer fighting here. The fact that this stuff appears here does not prevent these other posts from occurring, though.

Instead, I think it's because the quality posts you seek concern information that is intrinsically scarce. This simply isn't enough such information to stimulate daily posts. Also, I expect that such quality participation occurs in cycles. People show up and make comments, then they move on, then they return. There is a smaller circle of people who participate inthe Registry than show up on the Coin Board (where, I might point out, the proportion of quality posts is not all that high, either).

My guess is that increasing the number of Boards here won't increase the number of quality posts.

And Lord knows, we've debated BST phenomena here much more than we've ever debated Registry quality coins.

I say let it ride, and start posting the good posts.

DAM · November 22, 2003 2:08PM

I didn't see the 'I Can't Decide' choice, so I didn't vote.

I've purchased a number of coins from this forum and like having 'first shot', so to speak, before the coins go to the BST or Ebay. What is getting old is the bickering, pi$$ing, and moaning. I could live without that.

If you're going to make a comment about someone, make it.

If you're going to sell a coin, list the price.

If you're going to argue, us the PM.

If you want to fight, go outside.

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dpoole · November 22, 2003 2:10PM

Dam did a better of job explaining it than I did!

RELLA · November 22, 2003 2:28PM

Wow! All the things that you guys don't like are the things I come here for.

DAM · November 22, 2003 2:41PM

<< <i>Wow! All the things that you guys don't like are the things I come here for. >>

It does make for interesting reading, sometimes.

Sometimes people have to let off steam with no harm being done. I guess it's a checks and balances thing.

But it shouldn't take up half of the posts on the front page. I think that's what irritates some.

oreville · November 22, 2003 6:10PM

What dealer fighting?

I thought it was the collectors fighting?

egsantos · November 22, 2003 8:35PM

How about creat a new Forum named "Fights and BS" ?

mercurynut · November 22, 2003 8:43PM

I just want to get rid of dealer fighting and people listing coins for sale the rest is ok w/ me.

khayse · November 22, 2003 10:32PM

No, that's the only thing I come here for.

-KHayse

DMWJR · November 23, 2003 12:12AM

<< <i>Wow! All the things that you guys don't like are the things I come here for.

>>

Actually, when I need a good dose of that, I go to the open forum which is pretty much lawless.

segoja · November 23, 2003 12:17AM

Great question!

Looks like you folks choosing both sides.

Two problems with this:

Who moniters?

What's really wrong with the BST's here. I use them to buy and sometimes sell. I think most folks find them ok, particularly if the thread title says what it is. An offer to buy or an offer to sell. If yo don;t like it, then don't open it!

fcloud · November 23, 2003 1:29AM

The dealer bickering should be on the open forum. Not here. I voted yes, but I think the question should be seperated to "Dealer Fighting" and "BST Action."

Stop the fighting in this forum it is for registry use.

Tony

joeyuk · November 23, 2003 2:46AM

If this forum is for all things registry related then b/s/t/ high end coins belong here. The re(d)cent bickering belongs somewhare but not here,maybe the open forum or a parking lot. As the question is worded I voted no.

mdwoods · November 23, 2003 3:16AM

The Open forum is not as lawless as you might believe. We have banded together several times this year to send comfort packages to Ray Paseo and his comrades in Iraq as well as others near and dear to us. The open forum is for all things, including civility. What may appear as hostility is often just rough housing. However like any gathering place of individuals there are problems. Some members even post coin photos on the Open Forum because they don't feel like having their coin tore apart by some of the so called "helpful" members of the coin forum who are just being "honest".

I voted no also. It's nice to see real quality coins offered here. And if there is a difference of opinion, I don't mind seeing that too. Sometimes I learn something from both sides.

DMWJR · November 23, 2003 4:31AM

Maybe the question was poorly worded. Actually I like the Open Forum and post there pretty regularly. It's still pretty much "anything goes."

Last night I just looked at the first page of the Registry Forum, and 12 of the 20 threads showing were BST threads (which didn't always include pop-top material), and petty bickering and name calling.

This forum has gotten so sluggish, that often times you can see threads originating for the past three days all on the front page (20).

Hopefully some board members will look in the mirror when they read this and reconsider some of the posts they make.

Bear · November 23, 2003 5:48AM

The only problem with the Forum is people. Get rid of them

and you get rid of all the problems. Be nice a quiet too.

DMWJR · November 23, 2003 11:22PM

<< <i>The only problem with the Forum is people. Get rid of them

and you get rid of all the problems. Be nice a quiet too. >>

Very funny bear. I've said the same thing about work. If it weren't for the employees and customers, my job would be pretty good.

Steve · November 24, 2003 12:19AM

Doug, I agree with you that it would be nice if the Registry forum was used to talk about Registry coins and not all the other BS. Unfortunately, everyone can post ANYTHING they want on ANY of the boards. While I too dislike the recent posts that Roger made about Mark, I do appreciate SOME of the comments and information Roger provides about MY coin of interest, the Lincoln Cent. I somehow sense that Roger is branching into being a "dealer" or a "trader/investor" rather than a collector. The motivation of "it's all about the money" rather than "its all about the coin" bothers me, BUT I do recognize a person has the right to be involved with this hobby in whatever way they want to. JMHO. Steve

MoneyLA · November 24, 2003 5:18AM

I have both bought and sold coins here and have no problem. Fighting? I love a good public slug-fest. cheers, alan mendelson

egsantos · November 24, 2003 10:20PM

I believe that here is the right place to bought and sold key coins for our sets. Most common coin should be offered in BST forum.

Edson

BigJack · December 2, 2003 9:55PM

ooops. sorry for dup.

Steve27 · December 3, 2003 2:11AM

If it wasn't for the fighting and BST action this would be the "Dead Forum."

Poll: who would be in favor of a Forum that barred BST action and dealer fighting?

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