Fake 1893-s Morgan?

Veridicus

What do you think about this?


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Jamericon

I do not think so. There is nothing from the scan that makes me weary.

Placid

Modified pics to see the coins details better.

lordmarcovan

There's nothing in the scan that makes me weary, but the ALL-CAPS description does, and the fact it's raw makes me wary.

Placid

Does the 1 in the date look like its over the denticle?
Is that a seam in the bottom or picture oddness?

Jamericon

As Marcovan said, the one warning sign of this coin is its status of being uncertified!

clw54

The date looks reasonable. The one is positioned over the denticle, and the three is higher than the rest of the number. Still wouldn't bid on it.

beartracks42

The only way that I would bid on it is if I had it in my hand and could clearly see the telltale die markers on the crossbar of the "T" and the rabbits ears in the "R" of "LIBERTY". Every 1893-S Morgan will have those die markers, according to everything I have read.

Bubblehead

After reading the 3 negs, I'd especially stay away from this one.

FC57Coins

Beartracks42 has the right idea - that coin would have to be seen up close and the diagnostics determined before venturing into anything like that. Bytheway - I've seen plenty of raw 1893's at shows - well - plenty being like 10. These come out of album collections, so I wouldn't be too leary of LOOKING at raw ones - IF you know what diagnostics to look for.

XpipedreamR

I wouldn't bid on it. It just looks strange to me, and the slab is conspicuous in its absence.

jdimmick

The coin looks genuine to me. The date has the slight deviation angle/(distance of digits off rim) as you read from the first 1 thru the rest of the date. Also the numerals are lined up properly in accordance with the diagnostics. Looks right at XF to me, maybe not a ceritifiable xf?

But as others said, I would never buy this coin with out being able to view it in person, nor would I pay the stronger money by far that the 93-s are bringing with it being a raw coin, and especially on e-bay.

jpumper

The seller guarantee's its authenticity BUT what if you bought it and found it FAKE, return it and he says its not the same coin??

Dog97

The strange shine & periph stains makes it look to be cleaned, the mm is either added or has damage, and it's a VF not XF which is only a $2,000 difference in price but I really don't see it being altered.

DMWJR

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