Grading Eisenhower Dollars *HELP* Please

JMOORE

I am thinking about putting together a set of Eisenhower Dollars. Could someone please help me understand a little about grading them?

This one is graded PCGS MS66 (In the current TeleTrade Auction).

I realize that the fields are clean on this one but is it comment of Eisenhower Dollars to have this many marks and still grade a 66?


Thanks!

Jim

itsnotjustme

There is hope for me two make a couple MS67s yet seeing that in a 66 holder. If I submitted that, I wouldn't expect better than a 64.

keets

hey Jim

some things to consider about Ike's are the size of the planchet, hardness of the alloy and amount of striking pressure required. with that said, i'll tell you a bit about what i've learned from looking at lots and lots of coins. how accurate or helpful it'll be, well...........

most of the marks you see aren't post strike marks, they're planchet marks/flaws that didn't strike up to fully fill the die. i've learned that i should never dip an Ike no matter how ugly the toning looks because it only reveals the planchet flaws that were hidden. i've run across some really ugly Ike's!!! i see many coins that exhibit a ring just inside the rim which runs around the coin, evidentally from die wear. this one looks to have that. as long as the fields are clean and there's no rub or deep gouges or obvious bag marks, i've gotten used to the ticks like this coin has. they may not be the nicest thing, but they are pretty much unavoidable. if you collec tIke's, well..........

this one below is an exception to most of my reply. not many planchet flaws visible, not LDS, attractive toning and few bag marks. it's also still raw.

al h.

cladking

It probably got bumped up for the incredible surfaces but the grade still
seems to be a gift.

JMOORE

Al,

Thanks for the info

Jim

P.S. Slab That '76

supercoin

Hey, I recognize that coin! It's been several years, but to the best of my recollection it's a very nice example of the date, with much smoother surfaces than usual. You don't want to look at early Philly Ikes under too much magnification.

It has some attractive toning as well, in a date where hazy brown surface toning is the norm.

The date is given a little slack vs. others -- the Philly planchets were simply awful and I think the low-relief dies didn't stamp out the imperfections very well. In deference to that, PCGS does not (usually) grade them as strictly as some other easier dates.

I'm assuming it will get much more expensive than it is now, but if you're in the market for one in that grade I think it's worth a bid. Good luck if you do.

KUCH

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dollardude

I have a complete PCGS Ike registry set and, except for one coin, a complete varieties set. The coin you showed looks MS65 to me. I agree with what supercoin said. The earlier Ikes, e.g., 1971-P, do not come well struck or lustrous. The U.S. Mint improved the dies in later years, which are a little bit better, but not like a silver coin. The 40% silver varieties come much nicer -- especially after 1971.

Here is my basic Ike registry set, with pictures: dan'sikes.

BTW, if anyone has a 1972-P Type 1 PCGS MS63/64 for sale, please PM me! I'm still looking for this one!

USMC_6115

This one is going to PCGS next week...Any guesses what it will grade?

I'm hoping for a 65.

segoja

JMOORE,

The 71 you posted is overgraded. There are a few 71-P's that are junk in 66 holders.

Those have been bringing in the 1500-1800 range. nice ones (those graded correctly) bring over $3000.

If you cracked the coin in questinos out today, you'd get a 64, worth a mere $30-50.

I'd stay away from taht coin unless you want to buy a holder or the coin goes cheap.

James

mgoodm3

That picture is taken with very low-angle lighting. That tends to bring out all of the imperfections, including scratches on the slab, It may look much better in person.

dollardude

<<This one is going to PCGS next week...Any guesses what it will grade?

I'm hoping for a 65.>>

He looks MS66 (cha-ching!) to me, but that's just my opinion. Pretty clean, and only a minor rim tick. Good luck!

segoja

Hard to tell how the 72-P will grade.

They've been tough. Only made 2 ms66's on that date in the last 3-4 years.

I made one of them, and own 3 of the 10 graded.

PM me when it hits!

James

melikecoins

Hey I only got a MS65 on mine.



Glen

segoja

Glen,

You make my case easy to prove!

That's a nice 65!

segoja

The 71-P in question sold for $975.

A recent low, but well more than the coin is worth. A good buy for a slab buyer.

CarlWohlforth

Here is a silver '72-S in MS 68. It has a thick, unbroken skin. This one makes me apprecaite MS Ikes! Of course it is silver which often has better luster than clad.

XpipedreamR

Does anyone know if PCGS gives MS Ikes a break because of poor planchet quality? I hope they don't.

There are so many horrid Ikes; it's great to find a really nice one!