AT//NT test -- what do you think?????

rainbowroosie · November 12, 2003 8:56AM

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=28292&item=2202071222 link

As usual, hope my link works!!! I know this coin is in a holder, but what do you real "experts" say???? I vote: AT

airplanenut · November 12, 2003 8:58AM

Looks fine to me

airplanenut · November 12, 2003 8:58AM

Oh, and by the way, it's not in a holder... it's raw

DMWJR · November 12, 2003 9:17AM

I don't like Superior's pictures. PCI=RAW

I'll bet it looks much better in person. I could see NT.

k10 · November 12, 2003 9:18AM

<< Oh, and by the way, it's not in a holder... it's raw >>

The description says:

<< and housed in a PCI holder whose insert carries a grade of MS68. >>

Outhaul · November 12, 2003 9:20AM

Looks okey-dokey to me, too

Fairlaneman · November 12, 2003 9:20AM

All I see is a enhanced,crap photo. Thier Mercs looked like this also.

Ken

1jester · November 12, 2003 9:38AM

The pictures are terrible. How can anyone even tell if the coin is uncirculated or not?

pierre · November 12, 2003 9:49AM

i think its a pretty risky deal to buy something of that value without it being slabbed by pcgs etc....................

Tonekiller · November 12, 2003 9:52AM

Artificial toning via iodine and heat. In the late 80’s early 90’s a bunch of high-grade commemorative coins were made by a single doctor. The better services including ICG and ANACS will not holder coins with this pattering.

You can always tell this type of art toning by the way the toning “cracks” across the coin. If the coin is placed under a heat lamp it will continue to turn black.

Ex. Texas

Tonelover · November 12, 2003 10:15AM

That is one funky Texas for sure. Looks really familiar, was it recently on ebay or something? I just can't place it but I know I saw it somewhere.

braddick · November 12, 2003 10:15AM

SEGS holdered a bunch of these too.
Pretty coins though. Too bad.

rainbowroosie · November 12, 2003 11:29AM

Tonekiller knows his stuff!!!!

XpipedreamR · November 12, 2003 11:39AM

I hate to say it, but I think they look pretty cool.

Oh well, I shall now depart this thread, head hung low in shame

jbsteven · November 12, 2003 11:41AM

<< Tonekiller knows his stuff!!!! >>

PLEASE take that statement back. TBT's forehead is large enough without the inflation of that comment.

Fairlaneman · November 12, 2003 11:58AM

<< Tonekiller knows his stuff!!!!

>>

One Big

Ken

airplanenut · November 12, 2003 12:02PM

<< 

<< and housed in a PCI holder whose insert carries a grade of MS68. >>

>>

Good point... I misread what it said. I thought it said, after reading quickly, was housed in a PCI 68 holder, as they have it graded at 67

razorface1027 · November 12, 2003 12:20PM

JEREMY; Those things went out today...My apology for not meeting the Monday date...

Tonekiller · November 13, 2003 12:11AM

Thanks guys. Our experience with these types of art coins turned out to be a very expensive lesson……very expensive.

Our research information at that time came from NGC, Larry Shepherd (Simco Coins), David Schweitz, Mike Faraone (ANACS) and Brian Silliman (NCS). I would recommend sitting down with any of these folks to learn about toning or the history / origin of different types of toning.

Bryan

uofa1285 · November 13, 2003 1:03AM

Wow, it looks JUST like many coins I have seen with original mint set toning from the mid 1950s and before. Obviously, this is not from an original mint set but it fits that type of NT pattern.

Hmmmm.

(Anyway, I do agree that it should NOT be bought unless in a PCGS or NGC holder).

Doug