Hidden Picture

JusttheFacts

Does anyone know how PSA grades cards such as 1964 Topps Baseball (another example would be 1961 Topps Football) that has a picture on the back that was revealed by rubbing the card? Does the fact that the picture is or is not revealed affect the grade? In answering the question, please assume that the card was not damaged in rubbing the card to reveal the picture.

Thanks,

John

JeffVN

I have often wondered that myself. Having avoided the 64s for my current run of sets to collect, I have no real knowledge base on that front either. But, I can tell you the raw collectors of 64s want them unrevealed. Good luck in your quest.

paigowmichael

The highest graded 1964 I've seen with the picture revealed was a PSA 8. This question has come up before, and the answer always seems to be that nobody has ever seen such a card get a 9. But it might be possible.

My guess is that if the cartoon could be exposed without causing surface damage to the rest of the card it might be possible to garner a 9. I would think rubbing a coin against the surface would generally cause scrapes and such....which would explain why a high grade would be so difficult to obtain.

1420sports

One of the first four cards I sent in to PSA for the free grades was a 1964 Mantle. It came back a PSA 5, and to this day I still do not know why. This card looks like a high end PSA 7. The picture has been scratched so that could be the case. Otherwise, I have no idea as to why it got a 5 ...

gemint

It's not uncommon for '64s with the picture revealed to receive an 8. But as many have stated, we've never seen a 9 with the picture revealed. Not to say it is impossible but the odds don't look good.