Research for Player Sets

dalew

I was thinking of doing a Mel Harder Player Set. He played in the 20's, 30's, 40's and the coached up to the 50's and 60's.

What do you use as a way to check out what cards have been issued for a player so that you can request a set be put on PSA?

If upon approval by PSA of your set and you find another card that you didn't know about, will PSA enter the new card?

Dale

cameocards

Dale,
Beckett puts out an alphabetical check list book. It looks like Harder has about 25 or so cards for a master set and 15-17 cards from his playing days. I don't know if PSA grades all of them or not. They will add cards to the set. I just advised them of a card missing from the Boog Powell player set. They replied that it would be added. Hope this helps.
Greg

Virtualizard

Ask and ye shall receive:

Mel Harder cards
1932-34 Orbit Gum Pins "Numbered"
1932-34 Orbit Gum Pins "Unnumbered"
1933 Tatoo Orbit R305
1933 Worch Cigar
1934 Diamond Match Co. Silver Border
1934 Goudey R320
1934-36 Batter-Up R318
1935 Exhibits Four-in-One W463-5
1935 Gold Medal Flour R313A
1935 Goudey Puzzle R321
1935-36 Diamond Match Co. Series 3 Type 1
1936 Exhibits Four-in-One W463-6
1936 Goudey Wide Pen Premiums R314
1936 National Chicle Fine Pen Premiums R313
1936 R311 Premiums
1936 R312 Pastel Photos
1936 S and S WG8
1938 Clopay Foto-Fun R329
1941 Double Play R330
1947 Indians Team Issue
1947 Indians Van Patrick PC-761
1948 Indians Team Issue
1949 Indians Team Issue
1955 Indians Golden Stamps
1957 Indians Team Issue
1959 Indians
1960 Topps
1963 Sugardale
1966 Reds Postcards
1967 Reds Postcards
1975 Indians 1954 TCMA
1975-76 Great Plains Greats
1977-84 Galasso Glossy Greats
1979 Diamond Greats
1981 Diamond Stars Continuation Den's
1982-83 Diamond Classics
1982-90 Ohio Hall of Fame
1983 Conlon Marketcom
1988 Conlon American All-Stars
1989 Pacific Legends II
1989 Swell Baseball Greats
1993 Upper Deck Sheets
1994 Conlon TSN
1994 Conlon TSN Burgundy


Mel Harder's playing career spanned from 1928-1947, so about half of these won't be included in a player set for Set Registry purposes. I included them all anyway. Hope that helps.

JEB.

Stonegate

Hi VirtualLizard,

That was a fast response! Is there an online source that you used? I'm looking for any cards of Johnny Ezersky who played in the NBA from 1946 to 1950 for Tri-City, Providence, Baltimore, and the Boston Celtics.

Thanks,
Kevin

dalew

Hey JEB, thanks alot it is much appreciated.

Dale

NickM

Does PSA grade the R311 premiums yet? They are 6" by 8"

Nick

goodriddance189

NickM, no they dont. ive been wanting to grade some 5 by 7 OPC hockey premiums for awhile now, and ive heard they might be grading them by december. im not sure whether the new holders will accomodate 6 by 8's or not.

Virtualizard

<< <i>Hi VirtualLizard,

That was a fast response! Is there an online source that you used? I'm looking for any cards of Johnny Ezersky who played in the NBA from 1946 to 1950 for Tri-City, Providence, Baltimore, and the Boston Celtics.

Thanks,
Kevin >>




Kevin,

I just put the list together off the top of my head. Those were all the cards I could think of. I hope I didn't forget any - my memory is not quite what it used to be!

Seriously, I use Beckett's website. They have a pretty complete database of cards, even ones not listed in their annual book.

I'm not too familiar with Basketball, especially vintage. I did a search but could not come up with anything using "Ezersky". Are you sure the spelling is correct? I even checked the 1948 Bowman set on the set registry - but there is no card listed.

Sorry I couldn't help on this one.

JEB.

NickM

goodriddance - when they can holder Turkey Red T3's, your 5x7s will be holderable as well. These are even wider than T3's though. Hopefully the larger holder will accommodate them.

Nick

Virtualizard

The last reference to the new holders that I've seen was on this message board - I believe somebody said that PSA was planning to have these available some time in December. I don't know if that's true, but I can't wait. I've got tons of oversized cards to submit.

JEB.

AlanAllen

Guys, PSA does not care about all of the cards that were produced of a player, only about the cards they have graded of that player. For a master set listing, just go to the pop report and do a player seach. You'll miss some of the multi-player cards, but BJ will fill those in for you.

For Mel Harder for example:
1933 TATTOO ORBIT MELVIN HARDER 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 1
1934 BATTER-UP 134 MEL HARDER 0 1 1 0 0 0 0 2
1934 GOUDEY 66 MEL HARDER 2 13 12 8 8 9 1 55
1935 GOUDEY HARDER,KNICKERBOCKER STEWART,VOSMIK 3 2 5 6 7 3 0 26
1936 S AND S GAME MELVIN HARDER 0 0 1 4 1 5 3 14

Joe
p.s. I could not find any cards for Ezersky either.

Virtualizard

<< <i>Guys, PSA does not care about all of the cards that were produced of a player, only about the cards they have graded of that player. For a master set listing, just go to the pop report and do a player seach. You'll miss some of the multi-player cards, but BJ will fill those in for you.... >>




Joe,

That's a good point that I forgot to mention. If a card has not yet been graded by PSA, it can not be included in the set. These lists are still valuable in that they allow you to identify potential cards to add to the set as you get them graded. I think this is the most exciting aspect of collecting a player set - requesting PSA to add a card to a set because you have recently graded or purchased an example of the only card that has ever been graded.

JEB.

AlanAllen

Oh heck yeah, the Beckett aphabetical lists are the best starting point for a raw or graded master player set. As you get deeper into player collecting, you'll realize it's missing some of the oddest of the oddball, but Beckett does do a decent job.

Joe