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GalvestonGalveston Posts: 273 ✭
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I just noticed my 1970 Kellogg's football set is no longer number one on the registry. Congratulations to Fuzzdude. Excuse me while I contemplate slashing my wrists with an Alworth PSA 9.
Strong buyer of 1970 Kelloggs Football & 1971 Kelloggs Baseball and Football. Please help me find cards!
I have a few hundred extra PSA graded 1971 Kellogg's cards. E-mail for price list. Looking for 1970 Topps Supers in PSA 9 too.

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  • carkimcarkim Posts: 1,166 ✭✭
    SNIPER
  • dalewdalew Posts: 491
    The Header on the Set says Finest Possible Set Rating is 9.17.

    Fuzz has 9.23 and Galveston has 9.18.

    Feel sorry for Galveston.

    But does that mean that PSA hasn't kept up with the Rating per their pop report?

    I'm trying to understand this stuff.

    Dale
    1st Finest Set - 1981 Baseball Fleer Basic - Retired
    1st Finest Set - 1981 Baseball Fleer Master - Retired
    1st Finest Set - 1955 Baseball Golden Stamps - Cleveland Indians - Retired
    1st Finest Set - Mel Harder Baseball Master - Active
    Mel Harder Showcase Set - Active
    #15 on Current Set Registry - 1972 Topps Baseball - Retired
    #23 on All Time Set Registry - 1972 Topps Baseball - Retired
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    Dale-
    Nothing new, there are several sets I know of where the finest possible set rating is exceeded by the top registrant. Here's two
    1960 Fleer Full set
    '58 Bell Brand

    Its not a case of recently graded cards putting the actual number higher than the theoretical one, both have these have been at this level for over a year. I think it's only a real issue when you are trying to achieve the highest possible rating on a set, and that number is inaccurate on the high side, causing you to seek cards that don't exist.

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Many times I have submitted a re-calculated Finest Possible number and submitted it to the registry for updating. Sometimes it gets changed, sometimes not.
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭
    Usually, it takes an email from one of us to get a change made to the Finest Possible Set Rating.

    I've done it several times myself and the Rating has always been changed rather quickly. Each time I have done this, I have included a spreadsheet that references the current POP Report as backup.



    OK, who can find the set with the largest difference between the listed Finest Rating and an actual complete set with a higher rating?

    So far, Griffins '58 Bell Brand set has it at -0.20.


    Although not such a large difference, here are two that I know of:

    1974 Topps
    1974 Topps Traded

    JEB.
  • CubfanCubfan Posts: 1,545
    Then on the other side of the spectrum, you have the 1969 Topps Super set with a highest possible of 10.86. Those 11's really carry a lot of weight image.
  • GriffinsGriffins Posts: 6,076 ✭✭✭
    The '60 Fleer set has a bonus point for each rare #80- a 9.0 average would go to 10.0 if you have one of those in any grade. This is how Levi's set went over 11.0 as he has all 3.
    Why does the '69 Super set do this?

    Always looking for Topps Salesman Samples, pre '51 unopened packs, E90-2, E91a, N690 Kalamazoo Bats, and T204 Square Frame Ramly's

  • MachodocMachodoc Posts: 541 ✭
    I know where you are coming from, Mick! First, Larry pulverizes me in the 1976 set and then Stump beats me silly in the 1974 K set. Last minute Charlies both, but I have the feeling it could have been worse. BTW, you better check your six o'clock on the 1971 set ....

    Wish me luck on Tuesday! The polls open at 6am and close at 7pm and I'll be out all day. Hope to have positive results to report Tuesday evening.
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭


    << <i>The '60 Fleer set has a bonus point for each rare #80- a 9.0 average would go to 10.0 if you have one of those in any grade. This is how Levi's set went over 11.0 as he has all 3.
    Why does the '69 Super set do this? >>



    It doesn't (or shouldn't). This is an error, plain and simple.

    Wow, I'm glad someone hasn't asked me to add the '60 Fleer set to my website. That would be a challenge. image

    JEB.
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭


    << <i>...Wish me luck on Tuesday! The polls open at 6am and close at 7pm and I'll be out all day. Hope to have positive results to report Tuesday evening. >>



    Good luck on Tuesday, Steve! image

    Email me when everything settles down and we'll work out a sweet deal. image

    JEB.
  • wolfbearwolfbear Posts: 2,759 ✭✭✭

    Steve - good luck Tuesday.
    I hope your supporters vote early and often. image

    Galveston - Welcome to the "Fear the Fuzz" club !

    Pix of 'My Kids'

    "How about a little fire Scarecrow ?"
  • dbj77dbj77 Posts: 499
    Hey, I live in Battle Creek, and it was a good day for me!image
  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    Mick,
    Thanks for the thought. Your set is absolutely awesome. Several times during the year, I was convinced that it couldn't be beaten and had pushed the set off my list for this year. It was sheer luck that the cards were available that I needed. If it is of any help, I also probably have the most expensive set, by far, for this issue.
    To show how my K-luck has gone this year. I did find a small stack of really sharp 71 FB at a very small store here in town. They were great. Lock 9's at least. Had taken my son in to buy Yu-gi-Oh cards and was very surprised to find anything for myself. Bought them at a great price, brought them home inspected closely confirmed they were great and put them soft plastic sleeves on the dresser (out of the sun, not under a vent and next to a group of Stop and Go FB). Came back about two weeks later to package them up for submission and every single card had self destructed. Huge cracks. Evil Kneviel couldn't have jumped those things. The 70 set was about the only thing that that went K-right this year.
    The last minute hunt for any Alworth was also an "exciting" time for the year. I lost one on eBay in 9 at about $80 during the last few weeks !!!
    Good Luck for next year and Thanks again.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    Congrats also to Wolfbear.
    You kicked my tush and left me for dead on several sets again this year. Maybe next year, I can return the favor.
    That 62 Fleer set that you have posted is top notch. All 8's on that set is ridiculous but 8.15 ! Wow!
    I'm not sure that one will be beat any time soon.
    Congrats again.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
  • SKINSFANSKINSFAN Posts: 1,032
    A CONGRATS to you my fellow 66 fan. fuzz the new kng of 66 topps football way to go dave. FEAR THE FUZZ. EMAIL WOLF FOR YOUR AP IN THE FEAR THE FUZZ CLUBimage
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    I figured Fuzz would challenge on the 70's Kellogg's. Lord knows I lost enough PSA 10 auctions to himimage.
    Some of those prices were aggressive to say the least. I figured I would wait for the next 10 that became available. I unfortunately received about 200 cards on saturdayimage and couldn't add them till Sunday. Oh well, it gives me a head start on next year.
    Congrats Fuzz, and Mick, let some of us peasants win some 10'simage
    Baseball is my Pastime, Football is my Passion
  • FuzzFuzz Posts: 903
    Justed wanted to thank Frank and THE Artman for the kind thoughts on this years FB. Have been waiting to see someone condense the numbers but have not seen it yet and this is a board full of analytical and organized types.
    I can't say that I look forward to next year too much because you guys all keep raising that bar higher and higher. It does get expensive (sorry about those K-Kards Frank). I thought that 8.0 would win this years 66 FB six months ago. I hate to think what it will take next year. But one way or another, there are getting to be several top sets in most of the years now. Next year it will probably be even more sets in even more years. FB is no longer the little pond it had been.
    Fuzz
    Wanted: Bell Brands FB and BB, Chiefs regionals especially those ugly milk cards, Coke caps, Topps and Fleer inserts and test issues from the 60's. 1981 FB Rack pack w/ Jan Stenerud on top.
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