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Coin challenge- Eddy VII 3 pence

1902 3 pence, UNC, blue toning on reverse, blue/gold with untoned spots on obverse. Not an expensive or rare coin so it should be easy to beat! Go for it!image
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  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    1888 groat with Bluish toning on both sides. Obverse is fully toned, UNC

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    120,000 are believed to have been minted. The coin appears to be quite common. I have seen one low grade and three high grade examples this week.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Nice coin, wybrit-what's the mintage?

    Ah, thank you wybrit!-this may not be the best night for this-not many people around...

    It's funny, most of the time we're looking at coins with mintages in the hundreds of thousands if not the millions- how can a coin with 120,000 mintage from a different country that is heavily collected from a different century be considered common?
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭
    What's the coin challenge?
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Mac, a forum member posts a coin challenge when he/she wants to. Common coin, rare coin, matters not. You must own the coin, picture is not required but a good description is. Other members must try to stay with that type and denomination, try for a lower mintage and better condition to beat the competitors. We did this about a week ago and finished with over 50 posts If I remember correctly. If you can't match the coin within the initial guidelines, you can change type and century, even denomination but it will have to be a special coin to win, since you're outside of general guidelines.

    At this point Wybrit has posted a beauty with a low mintage. He changed centuries and denomination but it is close to within a few years. For this points can be lost, but if Wybrit can't match the 3 pence within type then to play he has to deal the coin in his hand into the game. As we go along, value judgements can and should be expressed by everyone.Want to play?

    Spinnaker, Farthing, you guys should be heavy hitters at this. Dimitri-you were bugged you missed the last one-get your entry in...
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    OK, I didn't know all of the rules. Let's try this piece:

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    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    or this one:

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    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    or maybe this one:

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    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    Mintages:

    1902 - 8.268M
    1908 - 8.158M
    1910 - 4.564M
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    That's not fair ! wybrit posted three 3pences,one better than the other: I propose that he gets disqualified for this imageimage

    Edward VII imageThe only one I have is a pleasing EF ,toned obverse, from my UK minor album,awaiting upgrading image (ashamed to post its picture)

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    Now,if you had asked me for an Edward VIII 3pence,things would have been different image
    Dimitri



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  • 1904 Threepence of Edward VII. Key date of the series. Davies 1594 (ie the rarest variety). Mintage 3.6 Million. 1906 has a lower mintage (3.1 Million) but is known to be an easy date..... Choice Unc displaying original brilliance.

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    (Is this playing correctly?)

    L
  • Don't tell Wybrit but his 1910 threepence is a Maundy Piece (SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH!!)

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  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    "That's not fair ! wybrit posted three 3pences,one better than the other: I propose that he gets disqualified for this
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    That's exactly what was going through my mind!!


    Lloyd, how can you tell Wybrit's 1910 is a Maundy?

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22


  • << <i>Lloyd, how can you tell Wybrit's 1910 is a Maundy? >>



    Jester
    It's only a GUESS but if you compare it to the others it seems very sharply struck. Also, the way it's toning. When I started collecting I had a 1905 with a blue tone and a very sharp strike. I was very fond of it but was told by a dealer it was a Maundy. I took it to every dealer in the vicinity - "Maundy!!" Recently I bought an 1869 off a list and sent it back --- MAUNDY.

    Lloyd
  • SYRACUSIANSYRACUSIAN Posts: 6,461 ✭✭✭✭
    That 1904 beats wybrit's imho image

    I'd like to see a great picture of cosmic's 1902 please image
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  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    Here's the whole set:

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    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Lloyd, I thought it had something to do with the strike. I have one Maundy coin, a 2 pence, and its strike looks nearly like a proof. But it's hard to tell that from a scan.


    Since I don't have any 3 pences from Eddie VII, I'll just throw out this 1903 Quarter Rupee for fun:

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    When I went to bed at 2:00 there was not a single forum member on line that I could findimage
    but this morning the game is underway, great!
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Laurent, this is a fantastic way to spruce up the Darkside! This, and the VTSes and all other fun and games and museum exhibitions and links, make for a top-notch forum!

    It is what we make of it, and I'm glad to be a part of what is the best forum on the internet (my completely unbiased plug...).

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Wybrit, you can't play football with three footballs at once! Pick one example and make that your entryimage
    LLoyd, I knew you'd add another dimension when you came aboard-these guys will have competition now.
    Jester, your selection of that quarter rupee was a perfect choice if you decide to go outside of type and denomination-family resemblances play well.
    Dimitri-I sense a challenge within a challenge-we can open up the edward VIII 3 pence series as well-go ahead and post.
    Cosmic those are gorgeous- consider my dinkum shrunken- fair dinkum?
    By the way, maundy's count-why not after all.
    I chose the 3 pences because they can be very common and I thought everyone would have a good example, but if this keeps up my next coin will have to be from Transnistria or somewhere like that.image
    Post, post, post, keep those competitive fires burning!
    The americans, et al may be just behind Lloyd here- we can't let the British landlords win, can we?
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭


    << <i>consider my dinkum shrunken- fair dinkum >>



    What choo talkin' 'bout Willis?
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    what I was trying to say, obliquely, was that the sight of your gorgeous coins shrunk my manhood (but only temporarily).image
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • cosmicdebriscosmicdebris Posts: 12,332 ✭✭✭
    image I did not need to know that.
    Bill

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    09/07/2006
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Who can possibly compete with the likes of Wybrit, Lloyd, Syracusian and Cosmic???

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Cosmic, that's why I was trying to answer with inference and deference, but you asked. Look at it as a metaphor, not an actual event.
    Ok, I'll stick with "Cosmic, those blew me away dude. Kewl!" Better?

    Jester, the answer is everybody! If you lose at one, come back with a challenge on a coin you have in top shape. It doesn't have to be GB or France or Germany... and the three (or thirty three musketeers as the case may be) tend to be specialized-they are vulnerable!
    Find a Trojan horse and you too can chase an enemy around the walls of Troyimage
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Then the real challenge would be to do this in a friendly, non-competitive atmosphere, UNLIKE the Lightside.

    "My MS-70 is better than your MS-70!!! Nyehhh-nyehhh nie nyeehhh nyehhh!!!"

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • MacCrimmonMacCrimmon Posts: 7,058 ✭✭✭


    << <i>. . . tend to be specialized-they are vulnerable! >>

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    My only Eddie VIIs are a few wee coppers, but they are the color of a fine scotch. image

    Oh me, oh my, what's a poor church mouse to do? This is a very nice thruppence display, btw.
  • farthingfarthing Posts: 3,294 ✭✭✭
    I must admit that I do not have an Eddie 3 pence that could compete with the likes of Wybrit, Avarel or LLoyd. image
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    Conder tokens
    19th & 20th Century coins from Great Britain and the Realm
  • laurentyvanlaurentyvan Posts: 4,243 ✭✭✭
    Cosmic showed the prettiest (stunning), Wybrit showed the most (and nice too!), Lloyd showed the rarest and in great condition so I guess we can award them the "three muskateers award" for this afternoon. Congratulations gentleman!
    And I enjoyed everyone elses, from Jester to Dimitri. It's all about sharing (not just competing ,but that's fun) and enjoying without worrying about where you stand. image
    One of the penalties for refusing to participate in politics
    is that you end up being governed by inferiors. – Plato
  • 1jester1jester Posts: 8,637 ✭✭✭
    Kudos to all participants, and to our host and commentator, Laurent!

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    .....GOD
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    "Ask, and it shall be given you; seek, and ye shall find; knock, and it shall be opened unto you." -Luke 11:9

    "Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God is one LORD: And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might." -Deut. 6:4-5

    "For the LORD is our judge, the LORD is our lawgiver, the LORD is our king; He will save us." -Isaiah 33:22
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    Don't tell Wybrit but his 1910 threepence is a Maundy Piece (SSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHH!!)

    I don't think it is actually, but I'll have to check. It's not one of the dates where that matters as much, however...

    Now this one certainly is a Maundy...

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    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
  • Wybrit
    I'll tell you what struck me with your 1910. the line of jewels immediately above the cushion part of the crown which sits on the head (this amongst other things).

    But the actual fields of the coin in the hand would tell you straight off so perhaps it's just a good strike. As you say it doesn't really matter - It might be worth more as a Maundy because of the date.

    L
  • wybritwybrit Posts: 6,961 ✭✭✭
    Lloyd - I'll have to go to lockup and take another look at that thing in the light. The PL is not too hard to see on Edward VII compared to, say, young head Victoria.
    Former owner, Cambridge Gate collection.
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