HELP ME GRADE THESE TWO BUFFALOS

tsacch

Two coins from the bay............opinions wanted.

thanks,

tom

1931-s raw, graded sharp....whats that like xf47.5 with kinda cool chocolatey brown toning?

and this one;2nd buff

FC57Coins

Something looks peculiar about the 31S - I wouldn't buy it - as for the other - we need both sides please

jonesy

The 31S seems to have a planchet flaw on the buffalo's hip. Don't know about the grade or the toning.

jonesy

Frank, Are you following me??

FC57Coins

Jonesy - who posted first?

jonesy

I did. You must know Carol!!

airplanenut

The pics are too small The first one almost looks corroded- I'd wonder if it's not cleaned...

BigD5

The first one looks torched with a lamination problem on the bison's hip, or flat out damage. I didn't bother messing with the image to find out for sure.

The second coin wouldn't grade higher than ms/62, if it is indeed mint state at all, in a reputable service's holder. That obverse strike is very poor. Too poor to even grade ms/63 in my opinion.

tsacch

i thought cleaned and retoned, but grade as far as xf vf????

the pci one i am not sure about.

BigD5

Probably xf details on the first coin.

mintluster

i dont think i would buy these.

paulheep

I give the first Buffalo VF and AT, likely cleaned. The second coin, MS62 or AU58, impossible to tell with the scan. I'd pass on both.

Paul

tsacch

the second one looks circulated to me as well...........i am not good at buffalos so i do appreciate the input.

tom