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fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭
Some Barber halves and Quarters can have almost good reverses and still be graded as good because the reverses wear faster than the obverses.

All CC mint marked Morgan 1$ are allowed alot more hits and dings than any other Morgan 1$ and must be graded completely different from the rest of the Morgan series.

The older PCGS and NGC certified Franklin halves can have undesignated FBL coins in them.


Anyone have any other cherrypicking hints to add ?image

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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    Line up all the Cats of this Forum... AND LET THE HEPKITTY CHERRYPICK!!!!
    imageBe Bop A Lula!!
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  • What is that you say hepkitty?

    What kind of cherry picking are you doing

    Glen
    I don't buy slabs I make them
  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414
    I bet her cherry has been pickedimage
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  • 66Tbird66Tbird Posts: 2,858 ✭✭✭
    Hate to go a little OT here but has anyone recieved their Cherrypickers' Guide, Fourth Edition, Volume Two I see paid for mine in mid june, still nothing. Now that's a pre-orderimage

    Oh yea, the hint, look at the roll sideways first.
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,888 ✭✭✭✭✭
    1921 Peace dollars are usually really weakly struck, with incomplete hair details and brownish, streaky toning. Avoid the streaky toning and look for one with as much hair detail as possible.

    (Kinda obvious, but back when I needed a High Relief Peace dollar for my type set, it took some shopping around before I finally settled on the right coin, which was a mostly-white, better-struck PCGS MS64.)

    For cherrypicking rolls from circulation: go for the nickels. You can very often find earlier dates and War nickels. If you buy enough rolls, you could almost put together a complete set of Jeffersons from circulation, even today. Granted, the coins will be low grade for the most part, but at face value, they have nowhere to go but up. And Jeffersons were "sleepers" for so long, they're almost certainly headed up, too, especially after the design changes. If your bank has half dollar rolls, too, you should buy all they have. Just cash your paycheck in halves, if they have that many. Lots of the general public are unaware of the 40% silver composition of the 1965-70 halves, even if they know about the pre-1965 90% silver stuff (though that turns up, too- I have heard plenty of stories of folks getting Franklin and even Walking Liberty halves at face value, in rolls.) I scored a fairly big hoard- several rolls- of 40% silver Kennedies at my credit union a while back, thanks to a friendly teller who told me she had gotten them. Every single coin in the rolls was 40%, with only two exceptions: one was clad and one was a 90% silver 1964 half.

    By far the best cherrypicking I have experienced is in bulk lots of world coins. This requires the investment in Krause catalogs, and a bit of practice to recognize coins by country (so you know where to look in the catalogs), but it is not at all uncommon to buy bulk world coins for 5 or 10 cents apiece in bulk, and cherrypick individual pieces that catalog for $5, $10, even $50+! And even though you probably will have to sell them at a fraction of the catalog price, you can still double, triple, or quintuple your money, over time. It just takes the books, a little practice, and a little patience. Very few American dealers choose to "waste their time" with "foreign junk". Translation: if you have a little time to "waste" on it, it can be a cherrypicking bonanza, and highly educational, too. I cannot count the number of world coins I buy for a dime and sell for a dollar. That "junk" adds up!

    I once saw an interesting looking cigar box of older world coins on eBay, with the typical too-small, blurry picture. There appeared to be a small gold coin at the top of the box, but it was hard to tell for sure. I was willing to gamble up to $35 on it, but when the bidding exceeded that, it got a bit too rich for my blood. I had pointed out the auction to a friend of mine, though, and he said if I was done bidding he was gonna hang in there for a bit. I said that was fine by me- there's a limit to my gambling. If the gold coin was phoney, $35 could be a lot for a box of junk.

    My friend won the cigar box for $45. Well, it turns out the "gold" coin was indeed a fake. BUT... there were a bunch of rare Puerto Rican coins in the box. He got at least $1,500 when he resold them. And there was still another $400-500 in the remainder of the box! I still shake my head over that one. Definitely "The one that got away!" Over $2,000 on a $45 investment. It happens, and it happens pretty often, actually. And smaller scores happen every day.

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  • WWWWWW Posts: 2,609 ✭✭✭
    Don't let clackamas cherrypick any Jeffs for you. Sorry. Me bad.
  • Coin FinderCoin Finder Posts: 7,411 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Elwood, I just p$$ed my pants laughing ( not really)!!!


    Thanks, I needed that.

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  • CoinosaurusCoinosaurus Posts: 9,645 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Elwood is in a rather spirited mood tonight, judging by his other posts.
  • I search all over shows and shops for the absolute best and whitest looking Morgans! Its hard to do because I am very picky and I dislike toning or black spots on my Morgans.
  • Here's a cherrypicking idea I'd like to add from a collector's perspective. I've found that if you know what you're doing, you can cherrypick raw or non-PCGS slabbed coins, and then have them slabbed or reslabbed by PCGS. I did this on my 1893-S Morgan. I had it reslabbed from PCI to PCGS, and the value definitely went up! I also just bought the key date for circulation strike silver eagles -- the 1993 -- in NGC MS69, for only $45. These in PCGS holders typically sell on eBay for $100-$150, so if I get it reslabbed by PCGS as MS69 (which it looks like), I've doubled my money!
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  • elwoodelwood Posts: 2,414
    Understanding strike on certain issues.

    Being able to attribute varieties from memory.

    The best way to Cherry Pick is LEARN HOW TO GRADE!!! Or learn how the services grade!image

    Become a coin Doctor.

    Know which coins are truely rare.
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  • GaCoinGuyGaCoinGuy Posts: 2,778 ✭✭✭✭
    what I do when cherrypicking proof sets is always buy 3-4 lesser quality ones(depending on price, of course).......that way theres no real rhyme or reason to your buying and dealers wont crank up the price on ya.
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  • tsacchtsacch Posts: 2,929 ✭✭✭
    flea market coin dealers are great for cherry picking. i got three doubled eye 1943 jeffersons and two 1939 doubled die reverse jeffersons in one swoop in Englishtown nj......the guy had pages upon pages of "just out of roll" war nickles that he just put into 2X2's and never looked over, as well as other dates. most went 64 at anacs.
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  • Figure out which dealer improperly use magnification when they grade thier raw coins. They are usually a good two points lowimage
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  • cladkingcladking Posts: 28,733 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Special coins tend to be made together and shipped together when they leave
    the mint. 1979 small motto quarters were released in S Chicago. 1982 NMM dimes
    were released in Sandusky, Ohio and Pittsburgh, PA. These are mostly widely dis-
    persed now whether they were found and saved or merely spent, but this same thing
    occurs with coins which have a very low velocity like gem 1972 quarters (St Louis)
    or '80-D halfs(Milwaukee) in mint sets. If you find a spectacular gem somewhere or
    anything of note then just keep looking in the same area and you just might find an
    even better one.

    Never assume someone beat you to the best coins.
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  • TheNumishTheNumish Posts: 1,628 ✭✭
    I have lots of good secrets.

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  • 291fifth291fifth Posts: 24,698 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Original, well struck mint state US-Philippines issues of the teens, 20's and 30's, especially the 1936 Commonwealth commemorative issues.
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  • fivecentsfivecents Posts: 11,207 ✭✭✭✭✭


    << <i> I've found that if you know what you're doing, you can cherrypick raw or non-PCGS slabbed coins, and then have them slabbed or reslabbed by PCGS. >>


    dollardude...That's a good one,I do that also.




    << <i>Figure out which dealer improperly use magnification when they grade thier raw coins. They are usually a good two points low >>


    MadMonk...I call that micro-grading, alot of dealers and collectors do this when they under grade their coins.


    LM... excellent information, thanks for sharing.


    cladking... when the 180% rotated die delaware quarters were discovered they mainly appeared in Greenbay, Ws and the town I live in. I know this because coin world did an article on this, plus I have some great local connections and I bought quite a few myself (almost all are PCGS AU 55-58)image

    I didn't expect too many replies, no one wants to reveal their "secrets". I do know most collectors/dealers have a numismatic bone they can throw out on these boards with out compromising themselves.image
  • airplanenutairplanenut Posts: 22,390 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Do what I did...

    1- Buy something that "looks nice."
    2- Post picture on board
    3- Be informed that you cherrypicked a very rare die variety image
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  • I went to 4 banks today looking for rolls of half dollars. 3 out of 4 tellers looked me right in the eye and said "You want rolls of what?". The bottom line is the banks around here dont carry them so it looks like I am going to have to order some.
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  • BlackhawkBlackhawk Posts: 3,899 ✭✭✭
    In the spirit of many of the members of the forum...Just buy major third party grading service coins that have any variety identified. Never buy raw or lesser known grading service coins-there must be a reason that they're not in PCGS/NGC slabs. Now that's how to cherry pick. image
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  • nwcsnwcs Posts: 13,386 ✭✭✭
    Look for dealers who hate toned coins. Some sell them at the same price or at a discount to the dipped white variety and you can snag a great looking coin at a fraction of the price. I've snagged a half dozen that way.

    Also look for high grade coins that people don't care about. I snagged a 1939 Jefferson raw for $2 that graded at MS-66. Also snagged a beautiful irridescent toned war nickel for $3.50 from the same person that slabbed as MS-66*.
  • MadMartyMadMarty Posts: 16,697 ✭✭✭
    Follow Russ to Flea Markets!
    It is not exactly cheating, I prefer to consider it creative problem solving!!!

  • RussRuss Posts: 48,514 ✭✭✭


    << <i>flea market coin dealers are great for cherry picking. >>



    That's what I've heard. image

    Russ, NCNE
  • ANAC's gold....often wide variation in the 10's [Indians] and 20's [Saints] particularly in common dates...have made many a PCGS 64 or 65 from 62's and 3's [be careful variation goes both ways]
    Forget sheet-pay extra- and buy keys with eye appeal in any holder or raw if the grade is correct...
    Finally and the best tip... The extra money you pay a good dealer for finding you the 'right' coins and perhaps most of all for avoiding the 'bad' ones is rewarded many fold...even the advanced collector could benefit.
    Collect for enjoyment

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