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Help me grade this morgan please

BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
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Hey guys and gals,

Wonder if I can get others' opinions on this Morgan. I am sorry the scan doesn't show the luster or toning, but it isn't too bad on the details hopefully.
I know that it is hard grading with just a picture, so I appreciate all opinions on this one.

Thanks,

Ron


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  • razorface1027razorface1027 Posts: 4,242 ✭✭
    I'm no grader, but it looks cleaned....It's ashame it's not a long nock. One day I'll run across one...image
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  • AethelredAethelred Posts: 9,291 ✭✭✭
    It is such a trap to grade a coin from a scan, and I know better!

    However, based on that scan and the way it looks on my monitor I'd say that coin is a 4.
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  • LucyBopLucyBop Posts: 14,001 ✭✭✭
    I don't see this as a cleaned coin, scans lose luster and make a coin look lifeless. I think thats the case here...

    This one does just seem to fall short of GEM, I also go along with ms64..... But it seems to be a nice ms64...
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  • MrKelsoMrKelso Posts: 2,912 ✭✭✭
    Tuff to call from that scan.


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  • fountainheadgoldfountainheadgold Posts: 2,467 ✭
    I agree with Lucy about the luster and about the ms64image
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  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks for the thoughts on it so far.
    Scans are very tough, I know, and I am trying to get better at the picture taking. My digital camera is not the type for good coin pics (canon s330..nice and small, but no macro and not good for up close).

    I bought the coin for MS63 money if I recall, but as a potential MS64+ on the grade. So, I don't feel bad with it.

    I have looked at it, and it does not look cleaned, but I can almost guess which part of the scan you saw to make you think that.

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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭
    4 or 5, depending on what I see in the field on the obverse...nice coin!

    Doug
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  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    uofa1285...I have put on my glasses to try and figure out just WHAT
    image your icon is? Looks like some kind of end roller, I just can't tell what the heck the coin is. I guess I am getting old.
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  • PlacidPlacid Posts: 11,299 ✭✭✭
    I will guess it's really a slider au58 but probably would market grade slab as 63.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Hey now Placid, I'm not Madmarty image

    Please...no AU58s for me...heh...unless I get a good deal on 1895 or 1893 mintmarks image

    I really don't think it is a slider (my advantage is holding the coin in hand (in a 2x2 of course)). It just isn't a monster toner either...I don't have any of those yet image
    Like I said in another thread in the World and Ancient forum....I am a cheap@$$ so I can't justify some of the prices for the monsters yet image

    Maybe soon...maybe soon.....I really would like a SUPER monster coin but I know I will have to pay and pay for it.
    Maybe I should sell my MS65 1888-O with nothing special about it....IF I could get close to greysheet ask for it...then I could get a semi-monster image

    So far, no coins sold....just a one way street TO me....one of these days one will escape.......

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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


    << <i>uofa1285...I have put on my glasses to try and figure out just WHAT
    image your icon is? Looks like some kind of end roller, I just can't tell what the heck the coin is. I guess I am getting old. >>




    stman,

    Yeah, when I had to reduce it to the minimal requirements in size and quality, it lost a lot of detail! LOL!

    Anyway, here is a link to a larger pic, if you want to see it. It is my favorite coin in my Morgan toned collection.

    Wild Rainbow Pattern! PCGS 62 holder...

    It looks like a Rainbow that got into a train wreck...image

    Doug
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  • BigAlBigAl Posts: 1,224 ✭✭✭
    If that coin has Full mint luster, I'd see it in a 64 holder, maybe a 65 if the planets are aligned. However, if it's dull, dipped out, or dipped out and retoned, it'll go 62. I own a couple of dull pcgs 62's which have 64 features. If the luster is gone, it'll be bagged for harsh cleaning.

    Not sure the extent to which the scanner has effected the true appearance of your morgan, but I have bought coins off of scans before, and agree that scanned pictures are lack-luster. However, if I were to make a judgement based Solely on the picture, I'd go with 62 because of what appears to be muted luster.
  • ElectricEyeElectricEye Posts: 2,354
    looks 64 to me
  • stmanstman Posts: 11,352 ✭✭✭✭✭
    uofa1285....Ah, I remember that coin. Cool coin. Well with those patterns and being shrunk down no wonder I couldn't figure what it was. So I get to say I'm not soooo old now.
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  • uofa1285uofa1285 Posts: 2,252 ✭✭


    << <i>uofa1285....Ah, I remember that coin. Cool coin. Well with those patterns and being shrunk down no wonder I couldn't figure what it was. So I get to say I'm not soooo old now. >>



    Nice icon coin yourself, stman!!!

    image

    ...but you probably are old...image
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  • mintlustermintluster Posts: 926
    Upper end 64, maybe 65 for that Morgan (may depend on who grades it). Could better decide if I was holding it right now. If you paid 63 money for it I think you did quite well.
  • BochimanBochiman Posts: 25,556 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Thanks again.
    I dug out my records and see that I paid inbetween 63-64. I paid ~$60 for it. And, I like the coin in person (not as dull as it appears..just not overwhelming...nice solid coin for me).

    So, I do think I did well, but since it isn't slabbed, I was wondering if I had missed anything on it (I am not shy to admit I have a lot to learn about grading still...especially when it goes above MS63 which I think this one is...I just don't think it has what it takes to be MS65 (I hope I am wrong though image ).

    I will keep trying to take better pics though. Some of you people take AWESOME pics (not to exclude anyone, but I off the top of my head, ksteelheader, russ, lucybop, madmarty, and frank the pug 57 image, take the best ones that stand out in my mind).

    I just wish the coin was a bit higher grade so I might get it slabbed....maybe as one of my freebies when I get over the "fear" of sending a few coins in for the first time....

    Ron

    I've been told I tolerate fools poorly...that may explain things if I have a problem with you. Current ebay items - Nothing at the moment

  • darktonedarktone Posts: 8,437 ✭✭✭
    63. no higher and no lower. nice image mike
  • LouisLouis Posts: 3,687


    << <i>

    << <i>uofa1285...I have put on my glasses to try and figure out just WHAT
    image your icon is? Looks like some kind of end roller, I just can't tell what the heck the coin is. I guess I am getting old. >>




    stman,

    Yeah, when I had to reduce it to the minimal requirements in size and quality, it lost a lot of detail! LOL!

    Anyway, here is a link to a larger pic, if you want to see it. It is my favorite coin in my Morgan toned collection.

    Wild Rainbow Pattern! PCGS 62 holder...

    It looks like a Rainbow that got into a train wreck...image

    Doug >>




    Nice one !!!


    image

    image
  • bushmaster8bushmaster8 Posts: 5,616 ✭
    looks 64+, shot 65
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  • Dog97Dog97 Posts: 7,874 ✭✭✭
    AU-55 maybe 58 on a good day. You can clearly see wear on the face and in the hair above the face & the fold of the cap.
    Change that we can believe in is that change which is 90% silver.

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