Could a Player Set be nominated for the Registry HOF ?

Basilone

I say Yes!

My nomination would be for Marc Schoenen's Mike Schmidt Master Set. I do not know of anyone who has put as much work into a player set than him. He has set the bar for other collectors to search out those hard to find odd balls, stickers, etc.

Any thoughts on a Player Set being a PSA HOF set?

John

boggs301012

I say yes, player collectors put in more work. You cant go buy a few boxs of cards like some recent issues. You have to seek out 20 or so diffrent issues from 20 diffrent years. But the nice part is your not looking at the same design again and again.



James

JoeOrlando

Just to confirm - Yes - a player set could make it - absolutely.

Any set on the registry has a chance.

Take care,

Joe Orlando
PSA President

Virtualizard

Cool, look out for my Stargell set next year!

JEB.

Basilone

<< <i>Cool, look out for my Stargell set next year! >>



try not to rub it in JEB...

John

Virtualizard

<< <i>

<< <i>Cool, look out for my Stargell set next year! >>



try not to rub it in JEB...

John >>





Oh, John, you have no idea!

Check out my set in a month or so (Master, that is).

JEB.

Basilone

Well..email me if you want a 1964 PSA 9 or a 1977 Dairy Isle PSA 9

Virtualizard

John,

I hope you knew that my previous post was in jest.

Maybe we could trade some cards. Are you still interested in the Clemente set? I have some oddballs ready to go to PSA. Most will be 1 of 1's no matter what grade they come back - but they are all very nice.

JEB.

1420sports

I would second a vote for Marc. Great guy and a definitive collection. As a previous holder of the # 1 set in the Pete Rose Master set, I gauged Marc's Schmidt collection as the bar I would like to be at one day. I decided to sell off a lot of the late 80's stuff to other collectors in the registry to focus on the basic and other cards. I felt pretty bored with the set as a whole, so I got out. Marc however, keeps chugging along and is always upgrading which makes a Hall of Fame set to me.

calleocho

there is a good chance they might pick fogel's mickey mantle set... the regular version

boggs301012

I would Choose Marc if it was up to me. I will take the guy that put time and devotion into a set anyday. ( and $$)


James

RobE

I would choose Marc's set too.This thing just keeps growing and growing and growing.He's got cards in that set that people forgot about for years and eveything in hi grade.

It's enjoyalble to read his comments not only here but as well as on certain cards in the set.

I think the only player set accomplishment that would be even more impressive would be a set put togethor of this great!



Anybody have his rookie?

mikeschmidt

Well -- I did not want to self-promote or self-depricate, but I thought that I should now weigh in on this subject. First off, I humbly say thank you to all of those that have so kindly suggested my Schmidt set be considered for Player Set honours. I greatly appreciate all the kind words and thoughts.

As for clarification -- Calleocho, Marshall's Mickey Mantle Set won Player Set of the Year last year. That being said, I believe that Marshall Fogel has strong reason to repeat as both a) Collector of the Year and Player Set of the Year. Marshall's Mantle set is unparalleled, and Marshall has the added honor of being someone who truly put the time and effort in building his Mantle set before grading became en vogue across the board. Marshall's overall collection is absolutely amazing -- though there is strong competitors in terms of Charlie, John and Davalillo, I think that John specializes in too few sets to be collection of the year, I think that Davalillo is a year or two away from winning this honor, and I think that Charlie may very well deserve the award if he actually registered all of his sets. I think the awards are somewhat subjective, as supercollectors like Marshall have so many non-PSA items of insurmountable importance and value, that it is hard to view their collection from such a strict context. Whether you are talking about Marshall's vintage photographs, Brian game used bat collection, etc., I think it is very difficult for anyone to objectively judge a collector from a purely PSA perspective.

In terms of Player Sets, please let me call out those individuals with superior and significant collections: Doug Rivard's Hank Aaron sets, OnlyMe's Steve Carlton Master Set, Marshall and John Branca's Mantle Master sets, John Branca's Jackie Robinson set, Ed Clark's Pete Rose Set, Keith Confronti's Pete Rose Set and John Branca's Ted Williams set. Finally, Marshall overall probably has the best and most complete run of post-war HOF player sets in extremely high grade. His collection of Aaron, Banks, and numerous other HOF stars is unparalleled in its sheer breadth and consistency of 8s, primarily 9s and even a few 10s. Even Brian Seigel's "Honus and Friends" specialty set I think is very deserving of honors.

I think that the idea of a player set is consistently evolving, too. Whereas the future of "Master" player sets are an uphill battle -- I have seen many change their collecting philosophy to shy away from the breadth of the Master Set and focus only on completing and upgrading the Basic Set. It is a push-pull system that I believe will continue to evolve over time. With PSA potentially grading new issues like Topps Super, Hostess, Post, Johnny Pro and others, the Master Player sets have the potential to continually grow.

Again -- I thank everyone for their kind words. I, however, believe that there are far more worthy player set endeavours that show a breadth and consistency that I have not yet attained. And I thank individuals like Marshall Fogel, Ron Hobbs, Jim Crandall and others who have been collecting for a long-time, and who are often willing and happy to share their hobby experiences with younger folk. It is from those people, as well as other Schmidt collectors and baseball afficianados that I have been able to learn so much and add to my collecting experience.

Cheers-
ms

Davalillo

Marc(and everyone else),

Do not forget Don Louchios. He is just now posting some amazing sets. No question he has the preeminent pre-war collection but now he is posting many other amazing sets.

Davalillo

mikeschmidt

Davalillo:

You are right about Don. Though I did not purposely exclude him -- my impression with him is that he generally seems to be unwilling to complete a set unless he can complete it in 8 or higher. This seems especially problematic in pre-war issues, where he has a GPA of 8.7, but only 70 or 80% completion, as he wants to wait for 8s for filling in the rest of the set. Though this isn't a bad strategy in general, it makes it somewhat difficult for saying he has the best set of anything if his sets generally aren't complete. He does have some fairly amazing complete sets, like his 1933 DeLong, his 1963 Fleer, and a few others. His M116 set is pretty freaking amazing -- but I did not consider it since he basically just purchased the bulk of it this year (and augmented it with numerous 9s he possesed). Also, though I understand why he does it, Don is one of the few collectors who rarely opens up any of his sets for general viewing pleasure. From a Registry perspective, this takes away from everyone's experience. How can I judge his set if I can only guess which cards he does and does not have in high grade.

Nonetheless -- Don has a tremendous run of pre-war 9's. Probably the best in the hobby overall.

AlanAllen

Don Louchios' sole registered football set, a complete 8.35 1935 National Chicle, was inducted into the registry HOF last year. I don't think he's upgraded it at all this year.

Joe