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TWO RARE LINCOLN CENT PROOF COINS

SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
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Real enjoyment to collecting Lincoln cents, or any denomination is to own a very rare coin in your collection. My proof registries contain what I believe to be the rarest of ALL Lincoln cents, the 1909VDB Matte Proof and the 1990 no S DCAM. Most Lincoln experts would say that less than 200 of each of these coins exist today. The mint made only 420 of the 1909VDB Matte proof cent and the combined total certified population from PCGS, NGC, and ANACS is now only 144. The 1990 no S has only 38 certified and Stewart Blay said on these boards that he believes that less than 100 exist! With the centenial of the Lincoln Cent only 6 years away, I believe these two coins will both continue to increase in value. If you have the opportunity to get one or both of these coins, go for it!. If you currently own one or both of these coins, congratulations. I believe that approximately 30% of all these two coins in existence are owned by members of these forums! For the record, if you care to, I'm sure forum members would be interested in how you got your 1909VDB Matte Proof and/or your 1990 No S DCAM proof cents. Steveimage
My True View Album

My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry

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  • redcentsredcents Posts: 734 ✭
    Steve,

    I too have always heard of the 420 # for the VDB. I'm curious why the new redbook (pg. 97) says there were 1,194 minted? Typo? New info? Also, anyone know anything about the 1917 matte proof? image
  • mdwoodsmdwoods Posts: 5,547 ✭✭✭
    I also heard that a 1914 Brilliant proof exists.

    I received a PM saying that the 1914 Brilliants have been proven to be counterfeit.
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  • fcloudfcloud Posts: 12,133 ✭✭✭✭
    Congrats.

    Do you have photos?

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  • SteveSteve Posts: 3,312 ✭✭✭
    Roger,
    Kevin Flynn came up with the 1,194 number for the Red Book in the Wexler/Flynn Authoritative Reference on Lincoln Cents in 1996. I believe his analysis is faulty for a number of reasons. While I would agree nobody can prove either number, the 420 number does seem much more likely based on pop reports. If you are really interested, I can provide you more details by PM. Read pages 346-356 of his book.

    The 1917 Matte Proof has never been officially recognized. It is like the 1959d Wheat back cent. No grading company will certify one.

    fcloud, I don't have a good digital camera and I also have problems keeping the picture under 50mg. Sorry, Steve image
    My True View Album

    My Complete PROOF Lincoln Cent with Major Varieties(1909-2015)Set Registry
  • lincolnSencelincolnSence Posts: 407 ✭
    Steve:

    Slight correction. The 1917 does NOT exist, the 59d wheatback does exist.
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭

    I've seen the 1917 described in the Walter Breen book.The edges had been almost perfectly tooled to create a wire edge.As 1917 cents come with a great strike I saw how unsuspecting collectors and zealous dealers could be fooled.

    stewart
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    i first saw my 90 "no s" in a prestige set (i think) i don't remember....


    anyway ...i cracked it out and and sent it to pcgs...i thought it would go 69 dcam...but i'm happy with 68 dcam image
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    mIKE

    PCGS has not graded a 90 no s 69 D Cam for some time now.They seem to grade them all 68 D Cam.IMHO they are limiting their liability.The 69 D cameo is worth tooooo much money in todays market because the demand is too high.
    I made the first one they certified and it was graded Proof 67 before the cameo and deep cameo designation.I later cracked it out and it graded Proof 69 Deep Cameo.

    stewart
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474 ✭
    Stewart
    Why doesn't your statement surprise me.Only you could get a 2 point upgrade and DCAM designation at the same time.
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
  • STEWARTBLAYNUMISSTEWARTBLAYNUMIS Posts: 2,697 ✭✭✭✭
    Don,

    Your no amateur yourself.Your 1937 goes cameo.You sell it for a nice profit and get a 1937 in trade.Then the 1937 in trade goes from 66 to 67.I wouldn't call you a guppy.

    Stewart
  • mozeppamozeppa Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭
    ok you 2 ....play nice image
  • merz2merz2 Posts: 2,474 ✭
    Stewart
    You are of course quite right.You and I have acquired an eye for the Lincoln Cent that has enabled us to pick some winners.There are others around here with the same abilities that just haven't had the chance yet.I'm quite sure that their time will come also.The Lincoln series continues to make a strong showing at all auctions and sales.It is my belief that in 2009 it will reach all time highs.I'm also sure that belief is shared by many,including yourself.

    mozeppa
    This is all in good clean fun.I have the utmost respect for Stewart and his collection !!!
    Don
    Registry 1909-1958 Proof Lincolns
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