1980 PSA 10 580 Ryan sets a new record beating the 540 Rose

RobE · October 10, 2003 5:19AM

1980 PSA 10 Ryan

Somebody bought it.

JeffVN · October 10, 2003 5:24AM

nice card. I'm watching this one from the sidelines.

RobE · October 10, 2003 5:27AM

<< <i>nice card. I'm watching this one from the sidelines. >>

Standing right next to ya.

Hey! I never knew you were taller than me.

JeffVN · October 10, 2003 5:29AM

Nope. That's a soap box that I'm standing on.

BobS · October 10, 2003 5:45AM

INSANE!!!!!!!

This is a 1980 card folks!!!!

For that kind of coin, how many PSA 7 RC's could you buy instead?

RobE · October 10, 2003 6:00AM

It seems almost impossible to find any 1980 cards with 50/50 centering but it's really not in the stretch if you are willing to go the long haul and open a lot of boxes.The paper stock is usually terrible for that year too.The cards are full of chips and soft corners and loaded with fish eyes and boogers.Chances of getting a PSA 9 Ryan is rare but not impossible - 72 PSA 9s out of 844 submissions.There are only a few PSA 10 Ryans from 68 to 80 which makes this card desirable for Ryan collectors espically.This is the only card in the set with an SMR of $90 that sells for around or over that price.The least I've seen 9s go for is $60 and the highest was $175.

Crazy?

Damn skippy.

I just found out the reserve and there is no freakin way I'd be able to touch it as nice as it is.

Creepercat,thanks for teasing me with this in my hard times

samsammy23 · October 10, 2003 6:09AM

This is why the set registry concept is a joke. This card has nothing but faux value. If this exact same specimen was sent in again ulaltered it has a very good chance of coming back as an 8 or a 9. I sincerely can't believe how many suckers are into this. The simple fact that you can get a better grade by resubmitting makes this set registry inherently skewed. I find it comical that people will "say" nice card just because they see PSA 10. The way I see it, every PSA card has a tolerance of +/- at least 1 grade. Sometimes more. From an investment standpoint, you are throwing your money away. You pay X amount for a 1/1 and then the price plummets when it becomes 1/2, 1/3, etc. From a collector standpoint, you are paying for a name on a holder with a certain "grade." If PSA was consistently accurate I would have no problem with any of this. They (PSA) have gotten so bad that people want to see scans of PSA 10's before bidding. Isn't this in part what grading was to prevent? Anybody who has a set and they think it is all 8's and 9's, keep in mind that you could resubmit and get back all 7's and 8's.
Good day.
Chad.

boggs301012 · October 10, 2003 6:15AM

Samssammy /Chad

Then why do you always buy PSA cards? You are currently the high bidder on a 1/1.

schr1st · October 10, 2003 6:27AM

Not everyone does this as an investment, skippy! I think it's nuts to pay that much for a PSA 10 card from 1980, but then again some people think I'm nuts for having spent $185 on a Gold Refractor in PSA 10. It takes different strokes to rule the world...

<< <i>This is why the set registry concept is a joke. This card has nothing but faux value. If this exact same specimen was sent in again ulaltered it has a very good chance of coming back as an 8 or a 9. I sincerely can't believe how many suckers are into this. The simple fact that you can get a better grade by resubmitting makes this set registry inherently skewed. I find it comical that people will "say" nice card just because they see PSA 10. The way I see it, every PSA card has a tolerance of +/- at least 1 grade. Sometimes more. From an investment standpoint, you are throwing your money away. You pay X amount for a 1/1 and then the price plummets when it becomes 1/2, 1/3, etc. From a collector standpoint, you are paying for a name on a holder with a certain "grade." If PSA was consistently accurate I would have no problem with any of this. They (PSA) have gotten so bad that people want to see scans of PSA 10's before bidding. Isn't this in part what grading was to prevent? Anybody who has a set and they think it is all 8's and 9's, keep in mind that you could resubmit and get back all 7's and 8's.
Good day.
Chad. >>

1420sports · October 10, 2003 6:32AM

This card has nothing but faux value

What piece of cardboard has real value anyway? RobE, the 80 expert and good guy in general, knows what he is talking about. Add that to the popularity of Ryan and the fact that this is a cool looking card and you have a winner.

schr1st - how true ...

pc · October 10, 2003 6:36AM

if i place a 1/1 up there with a $2500 publicly stated
reserve i can assure you many times the item will
be bid up to just under the reserve.this does not
mean ANYONE is willing to pay squat for the item...

RobE · October 10, 2003 6:55AM

Call me crazy but that Ryan is a nice card or it wouldn't be a PSA 10!I've seen VERY few slider 10s that I can count on 1 hand for 1980 Ts.

You should see my chipless,flawless 80 Bench with perfect centering.The card went for a lot of dough and I'm happy with it.I'd expect the Ryan to look just as good as the Bench.

I know what the reserve is and no way would I pay that much for it.4 figures is well out of my budget and PC is correct on his speculation, I took a shot at 1k then found out this card has a reserve that I'm not touching.

I would have hoped to get that card at the mid $500s or $750 at the most and that is pushing it but if it was offered to me at 1K I'd think about it.

downgoesfrazier · October 10, 2003 7:54AM

Rob,
You ARE the '80 Guru...no doubt about that and I'm a fan of nice cards as much as the next guy, but for the THIRD time in a year I've cracked out a PSA 8 from my '77 set that was a blazer and turned a 10. It happened this week. Frankly, the card is a legit 10 candidate--unlike the other two-- hence the crackout, but this seems to lend credence to samsammy23's rant. I say credence, not a complete endorsement. It's been covered before here, but as long there are different graders with different criteria we're gonna get different grades. I am sure the Ryan card is a decent copy, but that seems like a card I'd have to pony up for in person. Ultimately, it's a free market and collectors can disperse their discretionary loot any way they see fit, but 15 hundred bucks for that card is just a tad "cert" happy...By the way, how's that "gorgeous" '80 Ozzie 10 lookin' these days?

dgf

RobE · October 10, 2003 8:27AM

One of the Smiths is in someone else's collection and I'm going to guess he'll be sniping this Ryan too.
If he or anybody else wants to pay that much they can be my guest because I'd much rather get a few cards than this one as sweet as it may be.

I understand samsammy23's rant but it's odd that he bid after it.

Virtualizard · October 10, 2003 10:30AM

<< <i>...I understand samsammy23's rant but it's odd that he bid after it. >>

Not really, he will just retract his bid if he would happen to be the high bidder, just like he did previously.

I am generally easy to get along with (most of you can attest to this) and I don't like to cause trouble, but Chad's (samsammy23's) posts on this message board are, at best, worthless.

Why do you post here if you hate PSA so much, Chad?

JEB.

RobE · October 10, 2003 10:39AM

Go ahead and meet the $1950 reserve then.

samsammy23 · October 10, 2003 1:54PM

For the record,
I would have no problem with PSA if they would grade consistently. I admit that SGC is quite lenient with their centering. I buy SGC over PSA for my own collection. I'm only bidding on the Ryan to boost the price. I do not plan on winning it. I am well aware of the reserve. My major beef with PSA is that you can get a better grade with resubmission. I do submit cards to PSA for better resale prices. This does not mean that I agree with their practices. Virtualizard, you're a tool.
Chad.

LJB17 · October 10, 2003 3:20PM

Rob, "The 80's King," has helpled me track down a nice example of this card just recently. I am well aware that this card often has a left/right centering problem. I now have a nice PSA 9 example of this card in my own collection and while that 10 does look nice, I do not believe it is worth 1k+. I know 1980 Topps is harder to come by in top condition than you may expect, I would have to take my chances.

RobE · October 10, 2003 10:00PM

Luke,it's hard but not that hard in the longterm,there has been a recent population explosion of nice examples too.

Does anybody remember what the Rose went for?
I believe this is $300 more thanks to somebody "boosting" it.

Wabittwax · October 11, 2003 1:39AM

I don't think some of you understand exactly how tough 1980 Topps PSA 10's are. I've cracked 3 vending cases of these and got about 8 Ryan PSA 9's out of 50 cards with no where near any that would resemble a 10. Think of it from a 1980 Topps collector's point of view who has a large budget for cards. Where else is he going to find that card? Should he pay top top dollar (which is probably minimal to his salary) to ensure that he owns the card or should he wait another 3 years or longer for another one to show up?

A good example is why do 1956 Topps PSA 8's go for $2000+? To me, that's insane. Ryan is a HOF'er.

Scoop · October 11, 2003 1:58AM

Steve, the only 1956 Topps PSA 8's that went for over $2000. are high-end Mantles, and Pirates Team card....the latter of which is an abberation because it is very low pop and has been involved in bidding wars from 2 or 3 '56 set registrants who have very deep pockets.

PlayBall · October 11, 2003 2:43AM

Steve,

Are you referring to the 1954 Topps Ben Wade which consistently goes for $2000+?

joker73 · October 11, 2003 3:27AM

The '80 PSA 10 Rose sold for $1,125 ...

Robert

Wabittwax · October 11, 2003 7:16AM

No, I was referring to the Pirates Tema card. I didn't know that it was the only one to hit $2000. I thought it was a common occurance with low pop cards from that set. Another good example is the insane prices for some PSA 8's from 1969 (?) Basketball.

RobE · October 11, 2003 12:18PM

440-cuda congrats!Aside from the Henderson Rookie - you have purchased a card that breaks an insane record price of the Rose 540.This is the second highest price paid for a 1980 card with the 540 being the 3rd and I am going to guess that the Reggie Jackson is the 4th if I remember correctly.

braves72078 · October 11, 2003 1:49PM

Crazy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Give me $1800 worth of 60's HOF'ers

Braves

1980 PSA 10 580 Ryan sets a new record beating the 540 Rose

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