Any Experts on 1980 Topps?

burrite

I submitted a bunch of my old cards to psa for grading, and was lucky enough to get some 9's and a couple of 10's on some 1980 Topps cards...since i mostly collect 50's stuff now i'm not really sure what the market is for this stuff and wondered if any of you could help (or were interested in buying). The 10's were on 1980 Topps #40 (Fisk) and 1980 Topps #100 (Bench). The 9's were on Bench (#100), Winfield (#230), Schmidt (#270), Seaver (#500), Jackson (#600), and Yaz (#720). Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

andy k

gtbeaker

Andy-

I'd definitely be interested in the PSA 10 Johnny Bench, since that's a set I'm actively working on. Please e-mail me at gtbeaker@yahoo.com and I'm sure we can work something out.

Thanks alot!

Scott

RobE

It's a Hit or miss market for PSA 9s.Some sell for premiums but not always.On the Winfield Yaz and Bench 9s your looking at about approx. $60 for all 3 amd the rest are about $20 each as well.Sometimes more espically for Seaver and Jackson.

Congrats on the PSA 10s

The Fisk is worth over $200
The Bench cards have sold for close to $500 each.

burrite

thanks rob, appreciate the insight

RobE

No problem.There are some commons,Team cards,Semi Stars that sell for 10 to almost 20 while other commons or star cards have disapointing prices realized for PSA 9s.Like I said,hit or miss.

You will do well with those PSA 10s though.

JeffVN

Rob is "the" square shooter on 80 Topps, owning the number 1 set current and all time. The price on that Bench 10 is pretty severe, good for teh seller, not so great for the buyer in heavy competition.

Rob is even number one in the Reds 1980 team set category. I hate it when I have a set registered and then someone cracks my set upside the head on their way to the top!!!

Rob how is your hand doing?

Jeff

RobE

Heh,I'm contemplating the future of that set,it's possible that as a whole it's days are numbered due to the recent accident that has put me out of work for the rest of the year.The hand is swolen though healing nicely,the wrist is a whole different ballgame.Either I lost some serious range of motion or scar tissue is built up so badly it prevents normal movement.

Jeff is one of the Proud owner of one of the first 2 PSA 10 Bench cards.He also has that really nice Concepcion and Foster.I forget which one our very own Wabbitax submitted.If Jeff completes his Reds team set anytime soon he will no doubt knock me out of the top spot which won't be too difficult.

Scott,is the ultimate Bench freak.He probably owns 3/4 of the population of PSA 9s.I can almost Guarantee he probably has a couple cards worth a review.

diamantedude

Wait about 20 years and those cards will be worth something-- when Henderson, Murray, Ozzie Smith, Molitor, etc. start getting real old and the guys who grew up during that generation want to collect.

Late1970sTopps

Guys....while I've got all you 1980 Gurus here, I have a question. I have started putting together a 1980 set. To this point, I have only submitted cards that were clearly within the 9 mint centering criteria and I'm sure most have been centered at least 55/45 all the way around. Measuring left to right centering is easy to determine, since there are clearly defined borders surrounding the photo. My question is how do you measure top to bottom centering? Do you measure from the top of the players name to the top of the card and from the bottom border to the bottom of the card? Do you use the three sides rule? Does the pennant have anything to do with centering? Does the fact that some players names are really close to the border surrounding the picture and others are not come into play? Inquiring minds want to know....one at least!

Frank Smith
(fesmith68@yahoo.com)

JeffVN

From what I can tell from looking at a few of the Gem 10s in my Reds Set, the 3 side rule applies. The top is a bit different because of the banner, but if the 2 sides and the bottom are the same size, you've got a card that it perfectly centered (assuming that it is not cropped on the top).

RobE

Frank,anything Top to bottom that has less border on the bottom seems to be where the majority of 8s or O/C cards come from.I think(Just a guess) there is more flexibility on the top border having less space and usually,I measure the top space by the distance of the pennant on the left that has the players position.The Top right corner of that pennant is the highest part that can reach the top of the card,not the player name.Most of the time,I see the bottom border being the problem over any other T/B issue and measure exclusively by that unless it's obvoius that the top boarder has no room.

Just keep a good eye on the bottom and you should be fine.

Other nighmares are tilts,or horribly centered backs.


Edited to add:what the hell is the 3 side rule?
Sorry,I speak my own language.

GoSoxBoSox

<< <i>The Fisk is worth over $200
The Bench cards have sold for close to $500 each. >>



RobE,

You start quoting these kinds of prices and you're gonna force me to open those four wax boxes!!!

Considering I'm probably looking a $100-$120 (I think that was the estimate) per wax box maybe it's worth the shot?

Do you know any 1985 Donruss collectors? With the black border it's gotta be a tough set, right? Any thoughts on the value of those wax boxes or cards in PSA 9 or 10? I've got eleven unopened boxes of these.

I just need a good reason to open them. If there's no market I may wait until there is (if ever).

RobE

Tom,10s are not impossible(espically lately) but it's a cr@pshoot.Just ask the guys around here that have done the box cracking thing - Wabbitwax,PurelyPSA,Kalch are a few guys who have been lucky.

Most people I've run into wind up with 9s and 8s but every now and then the pop reports for 10s slowly increases.They're not impossible to get but you are taking a really big risk of cracking a box only to find a mass of 50% 8s and 50% 9s of just the submittable cards.Not to mention that common 10s are not selling like they used to.

It's up to you if you want to take the chance but you MUST be really picky.I'd sit on the boxes until next year if I were you.

I remember Steve Creason telling me that if he felt any card had a shot at an 8 he would put it aside.I think I have about 5 or 6 10s he submitted which came from a multiple of submissions.I have not been so fortunate for 10s,I set an expectation of getting all 8s and maybe 10 7s.However,I lucked out with 1 - 7,13 unexpected 9s and the bulk were 8s.


Also,I'm not quoting hypothetical prices,I'm telling you what these cards really went for.

mikeschmidt

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Do you know any 1985 Donruss collectors? With the black border it's gotta be a tough set, right? Any thoughts on the value of those wax boxes or cards in PSA 9 or 10? I've got eleven unopened boxes of these.
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Speaking from my limited area of expertise -- my general impression is that it used to be a tough set -- but that enough major dealers out there cracked open sufficient amounts of wax/set cases, etc. to get many of the best examples graded and into the hobby. I think the first Mike Schmidt PSA 10 sold for in excess of $250 (perhaps even $400), whereas now there are about 8 in population (just guessing on that...), and they can be obtained for under $60. Though the product seemed to be somewhat harder to come across -- even harder than 1984 Donruss in my experience, it seems like it was just a strong production process -- and that unopened yields a good deal of 9s and 10s -- especially in the factory set form.

Not sure of the "values" of any other stars from the set. I know that I picked up my Johnny Wockenfuss PSA 10 card for something like $12. Not too many people grade the commons -- and even fewer seem to want them graded. (I just love my Phillies!)