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At Least It's A Consistent Flaw...

Yesterday I cracked 5 recently purchased unopened factory boxes of 1981 Kelloggs hoping to get a Winfield card worthy of sending in. The result? Fugettabouit! Every card has that same slight upward clip on the lower right hand corner that will earn it the MC designation if submitted. I also went back and looked at several of my raw cards and all had the same problem... This is the only card standing in the way of myself and at least two other collectors I know of having a complete PSA9+ set. Oh well, maybe one of these years....

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  • I think I have an 86 Winfield Sportflic if you want it...
  • I need the 1981 Kellogg's version to complete a set. Thanks anyway!
  • how can it be mc if all the cards are the same?
  • I finally dug out my unopened set to look at that Winfield and thought it looked great at first.

    Then I put it next to another card and saw that flaw on the bottom right as well.

    How strange.


  • << <i>how can it be mc if all the cards are the same? >>

    It was a factory miscut. I have about a dozen of these, and they are all the same. I think King Kellogg has a 100 of these with the same problem.

    Robert
    Looking for:
    Any high grade OPC Jim Palmer
    High grade Redskins (pre 1980)
  • The '81 Kellogg's Winfield has become legendary since the news about it first became public at the National image.
  • I must have missed this... what's up with the Winfield card? or is it that they are just 99% crooked-cut?
  • KING KELLOGGKING KELLOGG Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭
    Kellogg's Klass 101...

    The 1981 Kellogg's Dave Winfield card #21, has 3 ongoing problems with grading high:

    #1 "The Miscut".
    The lower right edge will almost aways be miscut. Looking from left to right, on the bottom edge, you will see that about 3/4 of the way across the edge starts to cut slightly upwards. This is due to the trimming process at the factory. If you notice, the "chads" (little bits of paper and/or plactic top coat left from seperating the perforated cut lines between the cards) are only on the left and top edges. This puts the position of the card at the lower right hand corner of the uncut sheet. Talking with printing and bindery professionals, It is common for the sheet to pass through the cutting wheels (knives) and get "kicked" to the right or left depending on what the next procedure is as the sheet continues to the end. The cutting wheels, in this case, were straight cut wheels on the perimeter of the sheet, and perforated wheels for the semi - cuts between the cards to make them "pull apart".
    I've seen miscuts on every Winfield card that I've come across. Look for a real challenge on this one.

    #2 "Centering".
    About 80% of all #21 cards that I've seen have a major centering issue. I have only seen L to R problems. Card #21 will be off center to the right. Usually about 30/70. Although I have seen a few T to B problems, I feel that this is only a small percentage.

    #3 "Notching"
    For some unknown reason, the right edge, about half way down, has a little notch. Don't confuse this with a chad. This notch is cut into the card with a downward motion, and it's not very big. Just big enough to draw you eye to it for a second, and there lies the problem with #3. When grading, it's just one more thing to "score".

    Combine all the known flaws with a few more I haven't listed, and you will see why I call this the toughest card in the Kellogg's series.


    Hope this helped...




    Larry
    I LOVE FANCY CURRENCY, pretty girls, Disney Dollars, pretty girls, MPC's, ..did I mention pretty girls???

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    CHEERS!!
  • Larry,

    Thats it I'm going to crack my 3 sets and see for myself will let you know tommorrow!


  • KING KELLOGGKING KELLOGG Posts: 1,158 ✭✭✭
    Hey Matt...

    I wish you the VERY..VERY...VERY..best luck!!!!!!!!




    (and should you find a gem....give 'ole KING a call.....)





    Larry
    I LOVE FANCY CURRENCY, pretty girls, Disney Dollars, pretty girls, MPC's, ..did I mention pretty girls???

    email....emards4457@msn.com


    CHEERS!!
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