Thought you guys might like to drool

rickrman · September 25, 2003 2:44PM

on this ice maiden I just "stole" on Ebay. I can hardly believe my good fortune. I don't know how to make a link but it is: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3048485326&category=11969&rd=1

Placid · September 25, 2003 2:46PM

Link

JohnZ · September 25, 2003 2:46PM

Linky doodle doo

ARCO · September 25, 2003 2:46PM

Aforementioned coin link

JohnZ · September 25, 2003 2:47PM

Well now, who else wants to link to it?

coinlieutenant · September 25, 2003 3:01PM

Most Excellent Linkage

coinlieutenant · September 25, 2003 3:03PM

Very nice coin.

fountainheadgold · September 25, 2003 3:11PM

Nice Coinage

braddick · September 25, 2003 3:50PM

<< <i>Well now, who else wants to link to it? >>

Am I doing this right?! http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3049089712&category=11969

northcoin · September 25, 2003 4:58PM

Looks almost too nice, sort of like a casting? Assuming it is authentic you got a real deal.

Nap · September 25, 2003 5:20PM

Looks to be O-110

MacCoin · September 25, 2003 8:44PM

<< <i>"stole" >>

you got that right congrads on the wonderful find

dorkkarl · September 25, 2003 9:27PM

dude, be aware that's a heavily cleaned/processed coin. it doesn't matter if you don't care, just know what you've got.

K S

rickrman · September 25, 2003 10:11PM

Dude, methinks not. Just because it looks too good to be true doesn't mean it's not. I'll bet yo fifty cents it's legit. I'll post the results after I send it in to the "professionals".

dorkkarl · September 25, 2003 10:36PM

better yet - i'll bet you 1 public flogging on the forum that coin gets body-bagged by pcgs, ngc, or icg, or anacs will net-grade it.

deal? this should be fun!!!

K S

Jamericon · September 25, 2003 10:59PM

I will go with dorkkarl on this one. Appears to me to be lightly whizzed and or polished.

elwood · September 25, 2003 11:30PM

Unfortunately this coin appears to have some major problems. It looks like it has been whizzed to remove porosity. Then AT'D to try to hide or make the cleaning not look so severe.
Hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.
The devices are not crisp enough for a coin with that much detail.
The color is all wrong.

baccaruda · September 25, 2003 11:45PM

wow - that's really nice.

I'm about to make my first foray into "bust" coinage. There's an 1822 bust half on my bid board that's a beauty. it's graded XF and looks great to me. Nice color too. Closes this monday and I'm getting it.

1jester · September 26, 2003 12:09AM

Pretty nice for a whizzed and cleaned coin.

coinguy1 · September 26, 2003 12:10AM

Sorry, as some others have already noted, the coin appears to have been heavily cleaned, if not whizzed.

pontiacinf · September 26, 2003 12:21AM

thats what the coins I wizzed with a dremel look like

pontiacinf · September 26, 2003 12:23AM

rickman save the fees...unless you collect body bags its not worth it.

RBB617 · September 26, 2003 12:38AM

It's never fun to rain on a parade, but I agree with the concensus (sp?), the coin appears to be cleaned and/or whizzed. I wouldn't send it to PCGS or NGC for fear of it getting bagged. Perhaps ANACS would net grade it for you.
Brian

Bustman · September 26, 2003 1:12AM

Yup, I have to agree. Heavily cleaned.

grip · September 26, 2003 2:10AM

A waste of a Ditto,but Ditto

.Al

Tonelover · September 26, 2003 2:24AM

Rickrman, I apologize for the invasion of privacy, but after viewing some of the other raw coins you've won or bid on I would highly recommend you send some of your current winnings in to a reputable grading service before commiting further funds to more raw coins on ebay.

I am of the opinion that many of the coins which have caught your eye are cleaned, artificially toned, and have a myriad of other problems not mentioned (deliberately or not) by the sellers. Although you may not agree, I think you will find the certification process an eye opening experience and the sooner you do this the more money my advice will save you.

MacCoin · September 26, 2003 2:32AM

the pinkish color says cleaned to me. But I still like it.

ohbaby · September 26, 2003 2:40AM

rickrman, you are selling a ton of PCGS slabbed modern so I assume understand the importance of grading from the premier slabber in the industry. In other words you are no neophyte, at least on the surface. Not saying this in a mean way.

The coin you purchased looks unnatural. Go to any of the coin auction archives and look at coins of that series and you will see none of the NGC/PCGS graded with that "look". Coin has been retoned after being worked on. Save the grading fee or submit to ANACS for net grade.

The seller hides behind the cover of selling the coin for someone else and pleading ignorance and asking people to judge the coin for themselves. A powerseller with perfect feedback of over two thousand. This tells me there are alot of people to be scammed out there and they will never know unless they show their coins to experienced or professional collector/dealers.

Remember, there is no free lunch in coins and no deals. No one is going to give you something for nothing. How would they stay in business? Buying raw on ebay is tantmount to looking to be ripped off.

Good luck! Let us know how it turns out.

pontiacinf · September 26, 2003 2:46AM

very well said ohbaby..nice teeth also

Baley · September 26, 2003 4:56AM

drooling material:

or, for more affordable "drooling"... something naturally circulated

Sorry, but your coin looks "processed" in some way

nwcs · September 26, 2003 5:07AM

Barely looks real. if it is real, it's definitely been messed with.

Baley · September 26, 2003 5:10AM

Although, note that no one's saying the coin is worthless, just worth less than it sold for.

It would net down to maybe EF on a good day, but it's a common date so maybe worth VF money.

RotatedRainbows · September 26, 2003 5:45AM

No doubt poorly cleaned coin that shows almost a porous type of texture in some areas but worst of all is this line from the seller I am selling this coin for a friend that is liquidating his collection which means NO RETURN privilege. Unfortunately you are going to be stuck with a $75 coin (max) for your $163 bid, we can only hope you will use this as a learning experience so you will not make the same mistake again.

lordmarcovan · September 26, 2003 6:26AM

It has that dull, overdipped look that makes it almost appear as if it were struck in pewter rather than silver.

That being said, it is still a very handsome piece and I don't think you did so badly. I personally have little doubt that it's genuine.

grip · September 26, 2003 6:47AM

Boy,I wish boards and good posters/friends were around 40 yrs ago,I would have saved a bunch of money ..Also PCGS.
Baley,gorgious B/H.Al

LAWMAN · September 26, 2003 8:05AM

Something doesn't look right about the surfaces at all.

eminem · September 26, 2003 8:17AM

It should be noted that the thread originator has not replied to the multitude of "cleaned" posts. Lessons are learned in many ways.....some learn by observing and others by actions.....So in the future why not ask someone what they think. Find the bust half guru on the board and point to the link and say whatdaya think. That being said it is a nice coin but it most assuredly has been cleaned/whizzed.

paigowjohnny · September 26, 2003 8:36AM

My signature sums it up for me...

1jester · September 26, 2003 9:08PM

Tonelover, thanks for your excellent post and advice.

dorkkarl · September 28, 2003 9:58PM

rickrman, i hope you will keep us updated, & whatever you do, DON'T BE DISCOURAGED. "cleaned" should not be viewed as a death sentence for your coin(s). if YOU like them, then NOBODY ELSE'S opinion matters, that's always the bottom line.

K S

tradedollarnut · September 29, 2003 12:15AM

if YOU like them, then NOBODY ELSE'S opinion matters, that's always the bottom line.

Well....uhm..... until it comes time to sell, that is. Then the bottom line is a bit different!

Thought you guys might like to drool

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