Wondercoin Wants to Roll Me Like a Joint in Chess....coin related

dragon · September 23, 2003 2:00AM

Regarding playing a friendly game of chess in another thread, wondecoin was quoted as saying "Anytime, dragon" in a bold manner, and also said that he has a positive record playing someone who is actually being trained by a russian grandmaster! I honestly believe that wondercoin must be an awfully strong player, but I think I can defeat him even though I haven't even played in several years, and am not even sure I remember how to correctly set up the pieces on the board.

In fact, I'm so confident (foolishly?) that I can defeat wondercoin that I would be willing to give up collecting Morgan dollars and start collecting moderns should I lose to him, maybe a set of some lovely FS Jefferson nickels or proof SBA's. I am fairly confident I would be able to trade most of my nicer Morgans for some SBA's and Jeff's should I lose to wondercoin.

Many of you here know wondercoin to be a top notch dealer and an overall intelligent individual, and would probably side with him, but I am willing to forever give up Morgan dollars if he defeats me in a 1 game match over the board.

Is it worth risking your passion and collecting interests forever over one chess game and pride, and do you think I stand a chance against wondercoin???

dragon

LucyBop · September 23, 2003 2:10AM

Nobody, and I mean nobody, beats my Dragon!

Get em!

Typetone · September 23, 2003 2:15AM

A game over the Board. That would be "wonderful". How long do you get to make your next move.

Greg

DHeath · September 23, 2003 2:16AM

Cool.....I'll start the timer.

pontiacinf · September 23, 2003 2:20AM

can someone please remove whatever is in lucys eye...

hehehehe

cladking · September 23, 2003 2:20AM

<< <i>Regarding playing a friendly game of chess in another thread, wondecoin was quoted as saying "Anytime, dragon" in a bold manner, and also said that he has a positive record playing someone who is actually being trained by a russian grandmaster! I honestly believe that wondercoin must be an awfully strong player, but I think I can defeat him even though I haven't even played in several years, and am not even sure I remember how to correctly set up the pieces on the board.

In fact, I'm so confident (foolishly?) that I can defeat wondercoin that I would be willing to give up collecting Morgan dollars and start collecting moderns should I lose to him, maybe a set of some lovely FS Jefferson nickels or proof SBA's. I am fairly confident I would be able to trade most of my nicer Morgans for some SBA's and Jeff's should I lose to wondercoin.

Many of you here know wondercoin to be a top notch dealer and an overall intelligent individual, and would probably side with him, but I am willing to forever give up Morgan dollars if he defeats me in a 1 game match over the board.

Is it worth risking your passion and collecting interests forever over one chess game and pride, and do you think I stand a chance against wondercoin???
>>

Well Wondercoin says he's rusty, but even I remember how to set up the pieces, I think.
If you need any help in remembering how the pieces move, just let me know.

Wondercoin is a very smart guy and he did "move into moderns" pretty early. It would be
extremely unwise to underrate him. Of course anyone who still wants to play after they've
forgotten how could be a most formidable opponent, too.

No it's not worth the risk, and should be a very good game. Keep us informed.

BigE · September 23, 2003 2:23AM

How would you know if you were playning against Wondercoin or a computer?----------BigE

Wolf359 · September 23, 2003 2:33AM

Hard to tell. Ask him if he's rated. I'm rated around 1800 USCF, above average but no great shakes. I'd say anybody being trained by a Russian GM (one of would be near Master level (2200) and among the top few thousand players in the world. Or their daddy has a few bucks to throw away.

I wouldn't touch it personally unless you think he's blowing smoke.

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 2:47AM

Dragon: My "anytime" comment came AFTER your comment questioning the couple of chess players (including myself) who politely said they either played at master level or had beaten a master in their day.

That having been said, I WOULD LOVE TO PLAY YOU OR NEARLY ANYONE ON THIS FORUM CHESS. Would you like me to try to set up a room for a bunch of us to play at the next Long Beach show in 2/04? Or, perhaps at the FUN show in January? In fact, I can speak with Bob Hughes (and/or his Russian Grandmaster teacher

) and perhaps we can arrange a tournament between the forum members at either event. We can set up tiers for beginners, mid-level and advanced Chess players and have prizes for each tier. What do you say? ANYTIME

Wondercoin

Russ · September 23, 2003 2:48AM

Kick some lawyer ass!

Russ, NCNE

Typetone · September 23, 2003 2:50AM

Hey Mitch:

Play on the board so we can all follow the action. What do you think.

Greg

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 2:56AM

"Hey Mitch: Play on the board so we can all follow the action. What do you think. Greg

Greg: BigE is right about having a chess computer by your side. FUN is "right around the corner" and I'll be there for something like 8 or 9 days - a Chess tournament would be great FUN at FUN

And, the next Long Beach show is just as good as well, as I could easily set up a tournament and a big dinner following the games. Greg - you can come out to one of these events as well - take a breather from the Alaska chill

Wondercoin

Typetone · September 23, 2003 3:21AM

Long Beach might be a good Winter vacation. Not much of a chess player, but I think I would enjoy the action

Greg

MacCoin · September 23, 2003 3:34AM

I like to see Dragon and WC play! But Dagon Morgans for SBAs & Jeffs you got big cohoners!! So what is WC going to do? I hope he puts that silly stove pipe cool coin hat up!!!

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 3:35AM

BTW, I just spoke with Bob Hughes and he would also enjoy playing in a tournament with us either at FUN or Long Beach. He suggested we have (2) tiers in the tournament. One tier for beginners and "weaker" players and the other tier for "B" players and above. It would be fun. He also gave me the phone number of his Russian Grandmaster teacher, Babakuli Annakov, and I may just take a lesson or two before the games begin.

If anyone else would also like a couple lessons before the event, just PM me for his phone number as well - he is out of Dallas.

Wondercoin

Typetone · September 23, 2003 3:37AM

Come on Mitch, what's his real name!!!

grip · September 23, 2003 3:40AM

I want to see this match,any charge

.Al

dragon · September 23, 2003 3:46AM

wondercoin,

I am a simple, unassuming man, like a farmer if you will. It would not be fair for you to take lessons from a russian grandmaster prior to perhaps playing against me, are you trying to intimidate me and force me to retract my challenge in total embarrassment?

Would anyone bet on me winning???

dragon

PS: What is a chess timer?

BigE · September 23, 2003 3:48AM

Use coins in slabs for the pieces and silicone the real ones to the slabs with a corresponding value to pawn, bishop etc., and winner takes all. Wondercoin could use moderns and Dragon could use silver dollars.

------------BigE

stman · September 23, 2003 5:15AM

<< <i>Wondercoin Wants to Roll Me Like a Joint in Chess >>

What is a joint?

FrattLaw · September 23, 2003 6:03AM

If you guys have the tournament @ LB in 2/04, count me in -- for the lower tier players, that is!

Sounds like a great idea!

Michael

Robgetty · September 23, 2003 6:03AM

Heck, if you are going to do this, you should do it right. A beginners bracket,
and a USCF rated main tournament. (Certified director right here

) I may be
only a C class player myself, but it is still a good mix: chess and coins!

islemangu · September 23, 2003 6:16AM

I was raring to compete and then found out I misread the thread title

MadMarty · September 23, 2003 6:22AM

Man, all I play is Golden Tee Golf! Just goes to show I spen way too much time in bars!!!! But if there are any Golden Tee Players on the forum!!!

cladking · September 23, 2003 6:28AM

<< <i>

Would anyone bet on me winning???

PS: What is a chess timer? >>

The only thing which would make me doubt you in the least is that you said
I don't sound like a chess player. But then I don't do much of anything the
normal way. I suspect Wondercoin is far better than you think and that he
may only beat you if you underestimate him.

I have to suspect we might have a lot of talent around here for the blood thirsty
liquidation of opponents. Hmmmm... maybe I could brush up in time...

A chess timer is a clock for timing restroom breaks, I believe.

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 6:51AM

Cladking: As I mentioned previously, I am a bit rusty with the Chess as I truly have not had the time over the past 5-10 years to devote to playing that often. It's been a long time since the days I lived in Santa Monica, CA in a rent controlled apartment and played Chess on the beach all day!! I do love the game though and could easily use as an excuse to blow a night or two the need to try to stop Dragon from collecting Morgans

I have played just 5 games with Bob Hughes this year as the extent of my Chess play (no games really all of last year), but lost 2/3 games to Bob when he asked that we play speed chess (a 5 minute game) - I found I was too rusty for that

When I sat down and enjoyed roughly a 1 hour game, I did beat Bob 2/2 thus far and Bob told me today he is roughly a "1700" rated player. From the conversation I had with Bob today, I surmised I am closer to a 1900-2000 rated player at this time, which Bob called "expert". Bob told me today "2200" is where expert becomes "master". So, if Dragon is roughly a "2100-2200" player, he should beat me, but, with Chess anything is possible. Bob told me today that even as a 1700 rated player he recently beat a couple masters in a few of the tournament games he participated in. And, we all remember the movie "Rocky".

So, there you have it - my Chess stature is now an open book and I will not ask what a Chess clock is or anything like that. I am ready to go to battle with anyone who would like a game!

Wondercoin

grip · September 23, 2003 6:59AM

A joint is a bad A$$ night club and bar,rolled up in one

.Al

Typetone · September 23, 2003 7:08AM

I'd bet on Mitch because I think Dragon is a little over-confident. I might need some small odds though

Greg

stman · September 23, 2003 7:24AM

<< <i>A joint is a bad A$$ night club and bar,rolled up in one.Al >>

Hey that's what I'm talking about!!!! I thought that's what he meant.

wallstreetman · September 23, 2003 7:29AM

I will sign up for the lower tier! I was a chess champion in high school but havent played since, I still know how to set up the pieces though!

dragon · September 23, 2003 7:42AM

<<< So, if Dragon is roughly a "2100-2200" player, he should beat me, >>>

So does this 'rating' of 2100-2200 mean you are a good player??

Typetone, Yes, I'm probably just over confident and will be soundly beaten and humiliated.........however I will take that bet at 4-1

dragon

pontiacinf · September 23, 2003 7:46AM

i can teach ya one-handed...with zig zags-eezee wider...even one handed with the ones with built in roach clips...

onlyroosies · September 23, 2003 7:53AM

I have 5 C notes that says Mitch will take Dragon down.

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 8:57AM

"I have 5 C notes that says Mitch will take Dragon down."

Nick, my friend - I think you have the wrong betting window. Your bet was for the "who has the best MS state quarter, raw of slabbed

Wondercoin

onlyroosies · September 23, 2003 9:27AM

Mitch, I thought this was for a chess match between you and Dragon.....

maddogale · September 23, 2003 9:36AM

Dragon, old friend, I would caution you against playing against a known "trickster". How do you know he wouldn't cheat? Remember, it's in their blood....

wondercoin · September 23, 2003 9:48AM

Nick: It was - I was just kidding.

Wondercoin

Coinosaurus · September 23, 2003 9:50AM

More on chess and coins - the numismatic literature dealer par excellence George Kolbe plays at Expert level. I'll probably think of some more connections later!

khayse · September 23, 2003 10:07AM

Another good reason to come to Long Beach or FUN.

I love chess (not that I've played much in the last 15 years). I'm sure I'd get killed in the
upper bracket though I'd feel embarrassed to be in the "beginner" bracket (it's not like I
need instructions to remember how to play).

Interesting to learn there are so many chess people who collect coins.

I hope Dragon and Mitch play.

-KHayse

Bear · September 23, 2003 10:08AM

If I were going to play Mitch, I would be sure to have a gun, a whip and a chair

for my defense.

islemangu · September 23, 2003 10:09AM

Then in the tone of this thread its settled...Hawaii show in Nov 13-15

islemangu · September 23, 2003 10:18AM

Timing of the game would be the day before the auction NR losing stakes

khayse · September 23, 2003 10:23AM

Anyone play Go?

-KHayse

Stuart · September 23, 2003 11:01AM

Well I guess that playing chess and collecting coins do have at least one common thread -- they both involve some type of strategy to be played at a highly proficient level...

(I bet that you can't tell that I'm working hard to get my posting total above 200 to become a "senior member")

jbsteven · September 23, 2003 11:07AM

my money is on Dragon

kyleknap · September 23, 2003 11:59AM

I can't set up a chess board either, but dragon, if you lose, you must sell me all of your dollars!

grip · September 23, 2003 12:43PM

I use to set up a chest board,but over years it kept droping into my draws

.Al

dragon · September 24, 2003 5:02AM

If I cannot make it to the next Long Beach or FUN show, I will definately make it to the next Central States show and will thoroughly thrash wondercoin at that time. It won't be pretty.....

dragon

Bear · September 24, 2003 5:05AM

It would probably be a long game. Mitch will probably want to have the chess pieces

graded, looking for MS-70 pieces.

I bet he would find a few too.

dragon · September 24, 2003 5:17AM

Bear,

I am not anticipating a long game

wondercoin · September 24, 2003 6:17AM

"If I cannot make it to the next Long Beach or FUN show, I will definately make it to the next Central States show and will thoroughly thrash wondercoin at that time. It won't be pretty..... dragon

Dragon: This isn't the WWF

Yesterday, I invited Dragon to FUN in 1/04 and even offered to make all the arrangements for the tournament - he cant' commit. Then, I invited Dragon to Long beach in 2/04 and offered to make all the arrangements -he still can't commit. Now, he is talking about a Central States show 7 months from now - heck by then, Frattlaw, who has agreed to play in the lower tier, can take enough lessons to beat me!

I am proceeding with trying to set up a Chess tournament at either FUN or Long Beach - if Dragon shows, he shows. If he doesn't, I'll know why

Wondercoin

Wondercoin Wants to Roll Me Like a Joint in Chess....coin related

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