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Technically not a crossover.
carkim
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PSA currently offers members the option to crossover competitor’s graded cards. You can even declare a minimum grade when submitting the card. Upon receipt, if the grader feels that the card will NOT meet that grade, he will not remove the card from its original holder. However, there is no guarantee that the card will receive that minimum grade once the card has been removed from its holder.
With all that being said, here is my question:
If I send in a “PSA” graded card in an 8 and denoted my minimum grade as a 9 would that card qualify for the program? Or is there some other “Review” program that I am not aware of (Without cracking the card out of its case).
Carlos
With all that being said, here is my question:
If I send in a “PSA” graded card in an 8 and denoted my minimum grade as a 9 would that card qualify for the program? Or is there some other “Review” program that I am not aware of (Without cracking the card out of its case).
Carlos
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If it's not done this way I'd surely love to hear how they do this without sending you back your card in it's original slab.
Good luck getting PSA to upgrade a card they already graded. In your experience, do they ever admit they made a mistake?
It never happened to me but at the National in Chicago I saw a 1975 Hank Aaron get bumped from a PSA 8 to a PSA 9.
I have a few cards that look awesome for an PSA 8 I just thought I would try it once to see if it is possible.
Carlos
Hope that clears it,
S.
The evil one is only partly correct in his story.
"The purchaser went back to brag like an idiot" is not a correct rendition. The purchaser was Bill Goodwin. Anyone who knows Mr. Goodwin can attest that Beelzebub's tale is not in character for Mr. Goodwin. However, the value of the regrades was well into 5-figures.
Also, "I don't think you can blame Wentz" is laughable. Wentz should've eyeballed & scrutinized his cards as closely as Goodwin did and maybe Wentz could've gotten the upgrades.
Better than the "know your customer" rule, the "know your inventory" rule is even more applicable in this case.
Best,
S.
<< <i>Better than the "know your customer" rule, the "know your inventory" rule is even more applicable in this case. >>
Toppsgun,
I disagree with your comments for a number of reasons. However, your loyalty is admirable.
By the way, I'm sure gator05 would disagree too. No one knows 81's better than him.
Ask him!
And if I remember about a year ago you were crying about the poor grades
received and the inconsistencies of certain submissions. I guess that worked out ok?
aconte
Actually, no
The service is the same in both cases. Why would a card that is in a SGC holder be any different than a card in a PSA holder. Is it more difficult to preview a card through PSA plastic vs. SGC plastic.
I really like the crossover grading idea and I think others do as well. My question is; why can't PSA expand to service to include thier cards under the same guidelines?
This would really be helpful to those of us who are known for damaging cards while trying to break them out of there original holders.
Carlos
Not sure what to say maybe review service. But I feel your in a no win situation with that.
Best thing I've came up with for crackin slabs in going to the harware store and buying
a dremmel. There worth the weight in gold. If you take your time you'll never botch a
card. The screwdriver trick just doen't cut it for me. Many of why'd I do that for results.
your loyalty is admirable I have no loyalty to anyone referred to in this thread, so I'm stupified as to your (stupid) comment.
By the way, I'm sure gator05 would disagree too. No one knows 81's better than him. Ask him! If anyone on this board can read and comprehend the incoherent babblings of gator5, I salute them (but offer them no loyalty). For those who wish to try, look up a couple of postings and take your best shot.
And if I remember about a year ago you were crying about the poor grades received and the inconsistencies of certain submissions. I guess that worked out ok? And your point is, regarding relevance to this thread?
Signed,
Not a wannabe like you, you wince-o-maniac
Sorry for the blotched post and will retype. Most of my posts are babble to you for your not on the same page with many of the people I deal with. They know what I'm talking about and thats all that matters.
As for the post a half year back about peks 71 set I will give you that for I was off the wall written after
a 8 hr stint of holdem at the casino.
And for my grammer. Lets just say my english education came to a hault in eleventh grade
Gator
Wow big post. What a reply... You really put me in my place. Cheez I think I'm even afraid of
you now.
Seriously, I got to ask. Why are you so uptight? The name calling really hurt my feelings!
What happened? Are the monthly bills running too high? Is the old lady giving you a hard
time about loafing around and doing nothing all day? Did the dog knock down your Psa
8's and 9's and now you can't tell the difference between the good ones and bad ones?
Anyhow, the gator is fine in my books. I understand him and so do most is my guess.
I've bought Psa cards off him. I'll buy from a good guy any day of the week. He knows
cards and he is not a slab collector like most.
By the way, your world must be really really small. You know what I'm saying dog...
Because in my world I'd piss on your head.
aconte
Here's what I'd do especially if it's a common and that's to crack it out and re-submit it with a bunch of other cards. The problem you'll find with approaching ANY grading company with a re-grade is that they can be defensive regarding the grade that was already assigned.
Crack it and resubmit. If you really think it will bump up then then the worst that can happen is it comes back the same grade. I have done this a few times. Once I did actually have it drop a grade, so I resubmitted again and got the original grade back. A loss of some grading dollars, but no real harm done.
Luke
54 Red Hearts
and now 64 Stand ups
Way to funny! Thus lets not have this turn into a school yard brawl at least not with my name involved.
Guns,
Dont judge a collector by his slabs yet the cardboard that lays inside is key. The plastic is just a fee for a holder always keep that in mind. If you met me you would see where I come from small town boy that has nothing to do but hunt, fish, golf, and collect cards for a living. Tough life I know.
Okay heres the babble that speaks from my brain on a gloomy day in michigan. This is not to rip on psa but maybe for them to read and fix some real problems in the hobby. If you think my loyalty is suspect its like this I'm a no bs man and don't like to be filled with it. For I'm loyal to the collector and not psa for they have enough of my money its a SERVICE.
To the point of the thread on any given day your card can be graded 2 grades different so resubmit if your not happy bottomline. These are given facts about 81's.
4 Henderson 10's--------- Two are worthy and the other 2 are 8's.
4 Ozzie's 10's--------------Three are 9's and one that could be in a ten holder.
3 Scmidts 10's--------------All pretty nice cards.
1 Ryan 10-------------------Looked like a slant to me another DSL Mystery??????????
5 Garveys 10's-------------All minus one are suspect. 10 with snow Come on!!!!!
I've graded out almost half the pop in 81's 3000 cards and in 15 submissions I'd say 5 were graded perfect, 5 ok, and 5 graded by stevie wonder. When you load your sub up with 10's you get 9's and when you don't expect 10's you get flooded with them. One submission went back to psa and was handled perfectly by Joe with 86 bumps on a 150 card submission. Reason new grader used to grading refractors.
My biggest pet peeves are with centering why it can't be a cut and dry answer is literally crazy just adds to the grey area. 70's and 80's cards grossly misgraded for its the volume submitters that are really bringing quality down. At 4.00-4.50 a pop these submissions are just used to put revenue on paper while a grader rifles down the submission. With a % for 10's and 8's with rest being 9's. It never seems to change no matter the quality of your cards (My experience and others). Sending in 3 copies of the same card having the 9 in the 10 and 10 in the 9. Happens all the time obvious mistakes.
I've watched 65 fb go from the most strictly graded to now the easiest. Last year we were sitting at 12 9's now ballooned up to 55. 70-30 is getting slabbed in a 8 holder everyday.
One story that comes to mind and really burns me is a psa dealer contacted a collector and told him to steer clear of a certain psa 10 for his words were Helen Keller graded it. He bought the card anyways showed it to me at a show. 2 evident corner mashes. Grossly misgraded I told him take it to psa table and you cant be mr nice guy but he is so he was. Are new go to guy peter first words out of his mouth are you having troubles moving the card. What the #$#@ is that. OK i'm supposed to clean up your dirtywork. Thats what I would have said anyhow took his 25 dollars and got the card back 3 wks later in a 10 holder. Keep in mind a 250 Hof card. So he peddled it on ebay. Just doesn't sit wright with me at all.
The #1 reason to buy cards in a psa holder is for a mint clean card. I find it more work than fun sifting through ebay trying to desipher who has the goods and who doesn't.
When a volume submitter says no to a stack of cards but yet another dealer sais I'll take them and gamble being 7-8 material only to find them in 8-10 slabs a month later is highly suspect.
Lastly for all of you that don't understand this well sometimes you need to read between the lines for it is usually babble according to toppsgun. I post this for the collector and no other reason.
My 2 cents, Gator
<< <i>
Because in my world I'd piss on your head.
aconte >>
You are disgusting. How can you post such a vile message on a public forum?
Dude,
We speak of the same card
Carlos
S.
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PSATAN
It was not my intention to cause an arguement. I was merely asking fellow board members if PSA offered this service. If you look at the time I posted my original message (7:00am something), PSA would not be open. Furthermore, this is not a pressing issue to me, I was just wondering if a board member could help answer my question.
And yes, if I really needed to know one way or the other, I would call PSA!!! As a matter of fact, I still have them on speed dial.
Carlos
chalk one up for the good guys.
i'll never submit cards to sgc now
that they support those idiots.
(both wentzes i'm told prefer furry little animals-
they used to use beanie babies).
on occasion i purchase an sgc card
but they're rarely accurately graded.
with exception to those sold by a very
select few ebayers most sgc graded(post ww2)
cards are a waste of the 15-30 cents on the dollar
for which they sell.
go ahead sm1 make my day : )
Any other brilliant questions today?
S.
Any more smart a$$ comments today?
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Tonight just my crack.
Rabid poodles bark.
Lock my door and call for help.
They ate my nipples.
Why no more sock hops?
Maybe lawsuits stopped them.
But I don't care, fockface.
Mr. Spock jacks off.
To McCoy wearing velour.
Episode "Enterguys".
Best,
Satan
If I think of any, I'll let you know...lol
Carlos
Nice to meet you,
Satan
Nice to meet you as well.
Everyone,
Take note, Satan DOES have a soft side.
Carlos