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Would you pay this much for this error? I did!

I normally stick to certified coins, but this Ike looked so smooth (65-66 maybe?) I was willing to go $45 for it.
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Got this one as well, much cheapter.
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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    Oh wait.

    The `78 clip is sorta obscured by the glare of the mylar. I totally missed that at first.

    Very cool stuff. WTG, and,,,,,you suck. image
  • I hope they're legit. The second one looks ok, but I don't know about the first.

    On the first one (the 78-D) I don't see any distortion of the design by the clip, nor any Blakesley effect opposite the clip. How does it look in real life?

    If it is legit, that's a great deal. Big Ike clips (or really, any dramatic Ike error) are tough. I've paid more than that for a much smaller clip.
  • RampageRampage Posts: 9,512 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Tad-

    They are both legit. The Blakesley effect is visible between the R and T of Liberty, or at least it looks that way to me.

    Nice coins Brian.

    Richard.
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    Seller had good feedback and offers a 10 day return priveledge. He had a handful of clipped Ikes for sale. 1978-D Ike Clip

    Did you catch the Type 1 triple clip that sold for $91? I thought it was a type 1 from the auction picture, and e-mailed for a better picture. Clearly type 1 when the photos arrived.... but I didn't get home in time to bid. Not sure I would have gone $91 for a triple clip PCGS MS61. 1972 T1 Triple Clip MS61
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  • $91 seems like a very good price to me for a triple-clip Ike as far as rarity, though for dramatic effect I like your one big chomp better.

    I don't think being a Type 1 wouldn't have any effect on value... both Type 1 and Type 3 were minted in the many millions. A Type 2 clip, though, that'd be cool. image
  • I'm with Supercoin on the 78D.
    That big a clip would have to have blakesley effect easily seen, as well as metal flow distortion around it.
    The 72 looks legit to me.
    Ya know, I own a machine shop. I work hard to make a meager living.
    All I'd have to do is relax my morals for a bit.....................


    Ray
  • itsnotjustmeitsnotjustme Posts: 8,779 ✭✭✭
    I'll be looking at it carefully when it arrives and use the return policy if it doesn't look right. If they clipped it, they sure picked an awful pretty one to clip!
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  • lordmarcovanlordmarcovan Posts: 43,887 ✭✭✭✭✭
    All right. Refresh my memory on the Blakesley effect. I've heard the term, and once knew what it meant, but have since forgotten.

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  • Cam40Cam40 Posts: 8,146
    The way I,m reading it is, when the clipped blank goes to the upsetting process to pre-shape a rim, that area
    of the rim where the clip occurs will have a certain looking deformity.
    We can see on the `72 Ike that the rim area where the clip is is seemingly `unstruck` or without the proper
    rim height all the way to the clipped area.

    Not like what a coin might look like if one were to take a whole coin and just clip it off after the normal coin was normally
    struck. That way the rim height would be normal all the way right up to the clipped off area.
  • Actually the Blakesley effect is found opposite of the clip, i.e. 180 degrees across from the clip.

    A coin blank goes through an upset mill, where it is transformed from a flat disc to one with upset rims, like this:

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    This is done to aid striking, particularly of the rims.

    Because of the way the mill works, when a coin blank has a clip on it, the mill has nothing to push against at that point and so the rim opposite the clip is not upset as normal.

    After the coin is struck, this often shows up as strike weakness and lack of rim opposite the clip.


    Note that while the existence of Blakesley effect is a very good indication of a genuine clip, the lack of that effect does not automatically mean it's a fake. If the coin is particularly well-struck, the rims may be complete regardless of whether the blank was properly upset before striking.
  • I don't have any clipped errors, but an Ike would be a good choice. Wonder what a Morgan would go for?? image
  • gripgrip Posts: 9,962 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Supercoin is correct on all counts,and the large clip is lacking the characteristics of a true clip.Al

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