dipping a coin / washing a car: it's a stupid analogy

dorkkarl

a coin's patinated surface is inherent to the coin. dipping it strips off that patination, removes part of the coin.

the analogy that "if i wash my car, it's still the same car, it's still original" fails because it misses the point. a better analogy would be stripping the clear-coat off your car, which is like dipping the protective patina off a coin.

car A & car B are both identical rolls royces w/ identical factory wax jobs. moron A uses dishwashing liquid & strips all the factory wax off his car A, billy-bob B doesn't. they both drive their cars around for a year. whose car is gonna be the worse off after that?

i think the plasticizing of our hobby/industry has gotten so rampant & omnipresent that most coin collector-wannabe's are completely clueless - they really do believe the FALSE statement that a "proper dipping is harmless" to a coin. it's not.

note that i am not referring to conservation, which does not change the inherent patina of the coin, but to "dipping" as in dipping in an acidic solution to "brighten" the coin.

K S

supercoin

Have you run out of other people to disagree with, so you're proposing your own stupid analogies and counterarguments??

Slabs are also like a garage. So there.

Placid

If we dip you would you become brighter?

Sorry couldn't resist.

dorkkarl

<< <i>Slabs are also like a garage. So there. >>

when was the last time you opened up your garage & actually enjoyed driving your car?

oops that's right, can't open your slabs & enjoy the coins, can you.



K S

Cam40

DOG PILE!!!!

You finally realized the cleaning cars vs cleaning coins analogy was wack and you,re just now posting this revelation?

I was hoping someone would. I figured it,d be you. I just didnt count on it coming so late.

mgoodm3

My jeep has a nice patina on it. I haven't "dipped" it in a while. Personally the thought of dipping coins scares me a bit. It's changing the surface on a microscopic scale which is damage of a sort. It is commonly attractive damage, but still damage.

Baley

oops that's right, can't open your slabs & enjoy the coins, can you.

sure you can!

dorkkarl

<< <i><< Slabs are also like a garage. So there. >>

when was the last time you opened up your garage & actually enjoyed driving your car?

oops that's right, can't open your slabs & enjoy the coins, can you.

<<Sure you can!>> >>



hey baley, just tried it out. no matter how many time i press the garage door button, danged slab just won' open!!!

K S

Nysoto

A rare car can be repainted. A rare coin can't be replated, although some have tried! Sticking a coin in a sulphurous tonebox for a couple of months is no substitute for original toning. Once the luster is thinned by acid dipping, the coin is damaged forever. The "grey dirt" patina formed over the years on silver coins provides protection for the coin.

Steve27

With classic cars the question is not whether they have been conserved but how well, coins should be the same.

Nysoto

I have been a member of classic car clubs for 20 years. Try to find a Duesenberg that has not been repainted. Cars and coins are apples and oranges. No similarity.

Conder101

Those last two posts reminded me of an event we had here two years ago. Had about 24 Duesenbergs in town stopping by on their way up to Auburn. There was one that was really nice that had a little metal plate that indicated that it had won an award at a classic car event for its originallity. The metal plate was riveted to the body of the car!!! Ok, I know it was off topic, but it shows we don't have a monopoly on stupidity.

LucyBop

The Body of this baby had a acid bath prior to restoration...



Notice the Red Patina toning it currently has..... maybe a little at but who cares!

coinkat

Dorkkarl:

I agree with you on this one. There is a difference between restoring a classic car and keeping a coin original... washing cars and coins are different. Unfortunately some coins need help because they were improperly stored and have pvc issues or even other problems that require conservation to prevent further damage.

dorkkarl

your right coinkat. the problem is w/ newbies or coin-collector-wannabes who are clueless as to how CONSERVING vs DIPPING are 2 completely, totally different things.

K S

itsnotjustme

The patina (and that's a very kind word for it when it is ugly) is not comparable to a factory wax job. The patina is comparable to what happens after it leaves the factory.

Driving a car with it's wax stripped might relate to circulating a coin, but I don't choose to circulate my choice coins.