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SIRAMEDOSIRAMEDO Posts: 80
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I bid on Ebay on the following lot. The title on this auction was: 1973 Topps #180 Fergie Jenkins Cubs PSA 9 ( #2750888687). I was in a hurry and did not read the description on this card. After being the high bidder, I noticed that the description stated that the card was an PSA 9 OC qualifier. Is the seller correct in using this title on his auction? PSA9 is not the same as PSA 9 OC. I did wrong in not reading the description but I trusted the title. Am I incorrect?
What should I do now? Should I pay the auction or not? Is the seller correct using this title or not? Thanks for your comments. Siramedo.
I am always buying 1972 Puerto Rican League Stickers, 1948-49 Toleteros, 1949-50 Toleteros and 1950-51 Toleteros. e-mail pajoyeros@coqui.net

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  • xbaggypantsxbaggypants Posts: 2,185 ✭✭✭
    Although the description read PSA 9 and the card was a PSA 9OC, I still think your are obligated to buying the card.
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  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    Siramedo:

    Half the OC auctions these days do not list the OC in the title. I don't know why, but usually the description AND the scan show the OC. Surprising you would bid on a card without looking at the scan. Pay now, cheap lesson learned for later.
    Dave
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  • SIRAMEDOSIRAMEDO Posts: 80
    This is not about money (Im lucky it was inexpensive). Im paying for my mistake, no problem. My issue on this is that a PSA 9 is not the same as a PSA 9OC.
    A PSA 9oc is really a PSA 7. Anyway, Thanks. Siramedo.
    I am always buying 1972 Puerto Rican League Stickers, 1948-49 Toleteros, 1949-50 Toleteros and 1950-51 Toleteros. e-mail pajoyeros@coqui.net
  • DaveReadDaveRead Posts: 101
    Siramedo:

    I've learned to look out for the sh$theads who don't list the OC in the title and waste my time looking at their garbage auction, the one's that really irk me are the guys who charge $6-10 for shipping and "handling" on a $20 card.
    Dave
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  • helionauthelionaut Posts: 1,555 ✭✭
    While the seller wasn't completely forthcoming in the title, if he stated it in the description, then you should go through with the purchase. A bitter pill, but a lesson pretty much everyone learns from ebay eventually. You might offer to pay for the auction fees if he'll agree to let you out of your obligation.

    This brings me to a point I've been wanting to make for a while. The qualifier being on the second line like a variety or inessential desciptor seems to empower some sellers to leave it off in their listings. I'd propose that PSA start putting it right after the numerical grade like most people write it:

    9OC

    not

    9
    (oc)

    I think that would make it easier to spot even in scans that are sometimes a bit small where the qualifier is strangely not visible, and tougher to ignore.
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  • StumpStump Posts: 927 ✭
    Siramedo

    The seller is an arse. Buy the card and learn from the mistake. I did it years ago and still had it happen a month ago on a 65 I won.

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  • HowitallbeganHowitallbegan Posts: 107 ✭
    SIRAMEDO

    the seller you are talking about posts on this board and is heavily involved in the registry so maybe he can answer directly
  • VirtualizardVirtualizard Posts: 1,936 ✭✭
    I had this happen to me once. It was a 1970 Topps Nolan Ryan. I thought I got a great deal on a PSA 8 at $115 or so. I already had a PSA 7 from my own submission, but the upgrade was nice. When I went to pay for it, I saw the OC qualifier in the scan (not listed in title or description). I paid - lesson learned. I actually ended up selling it for a profit several weeks later with a nice scan and clearly stating that it was "OC" in the title and description.

    It happens. Shame on the seller. I always look at the scan closely, now.

    JEB.
  • WabittwaxWabittwax Posts: 1,984 ✭✭✭
    You should buy the card, get the positive and then drop him a negative for being misleading. People like that I refuse to buy anything off of. Even if they have a card in the future that I absolutely need, I won't bid. I figure the card will fit better stuffed up there a$$ instead of in my collection.
  • SIRAMEDOSIRAMEDO Posts: 80
    Howitallbegan

    I sure hope he has read all the boards and takes the time to reply for the benefits of all.

    Im buying the card, but be sure it won't happen again.

    Thanks all for your time.

    Siramedo.
    I am always buying 1972 Puerto Rican League Stickers, 1948-49 Toleteros, 1949-50 Toleteros and 1950-51 Toleteros. e-mail pajoyeros@coqui.net
  • ABBAdadABBAdad Posts: 118
    I sure hate it when I click on a card that I think is a bargain only to find out that it is OC. "Well no wonder no one has bid on the stupid card!" I definitely think it's misleading and it only irritates people. I sympathize with your "mistake".

    It reminds me of 2 weeks ago when my 8 year old son picked up my laptop computer while it was still on ebay. When I got back on later, I learned that I had "won" an auction for the DVD "Animatrix". Well, I had no desire to buy this DVD (my son had accidentally bid for me), but I paid for it with the idea that I would resell it immediately when it arrived. Well, it is now 4 weeks and no DVD. The seller said he mailed it the day after I paid him (he has 100% positive feedback). I believe the thing must be lost in the mail. Very frustrating!
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  • gaspipe26gaspipe26 Posts: 1,614 ✭✭✭
    I really hate it when sellers dont list the qualifier. They do it trying to either catch someone or get people to view the page. And yes I've won cards with the qualifier and didnt realize it until I got the card.
  • PSAtanPSAtan Posts: 164
    I don't think you're obligated to pay the guy. I'm sick of these fockheads leaving out qualifiers. Everyone who sells PSA cards knows that a qualifier is two lost points. By not putting the OC in the description, they are definitely trying to prey on somebody who trusts a PSA 9 card is indeed a PSA 9. It's false advertising. if we continue to pay for these cards, the sellers will continue to pull this nifty trick. I say "Fock them". Every single one of us has fallen for this and it's time for it to stop.

    This is a lesson you shouldn't have to pay for. If the seller threatens negative feedback, you do the same. Tell him/her to stop playing games and wasting people's time.

    Angry,

    Satan
  • floristflorist Posts: 10
    PSAtan,

    Advice doesn't get much worse than what you've just suggested. Have you ever considered climbing to a mountaintop and building a small hut?
  • FabfrankFabfrank Posts: 2,312
    First lesson of Ebay. "Buyer Beware". In all these examples everyone states that they got stuck with the card, but it wasn't that bad because it was cheap. I bet if it was a big money card that people were bidding on they would take the extra 10 seconds to check out the scan or read the description. I'm not defending people who don't put qualifiers in their titles. It annoys me too. But as the bidder we have final control on whether we bid or not. Read the description, see the scan and check out the sellers payment instructions and shipping charges. If everyone did this people wouldn't end up with stuff they didn't want.
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  • GoSoxBoSoxGoSoxBoSox Posts: 1,103
    You're screwed. It's a cheap one by the seller.....but you're still screwed.
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