How reliable is NTC grading company?

razorface1027 · September 8, 2003 12:56AM

I want to purchase a 1891-CC Morgan Dollar in NTC MS-64. How many grades lower should I count on if I submit it to PCGS?

Louis · September 8, 2003 12:58AM

If you're lucky they won't body bag it.

FC57Coins · September 8, 2003 12:58AM

I'd say be careful - the coin might be damaged or cleaned/whizzed - any time you see a good grade/date coin in one of these holders you have to wonder why it's not in one of the top three company's holders (PCGS, NGC, ANACS) as such, there could very well be a problem with this coin.

Frank

FC57Coins · September 8, 2003 12:58AM

Oh - and welcome to the boards

cherrypickincoin · September 8, 2003 12:59AM

Louis is right. If it comes back without a bodybag, regardless of grade, I'd say that is a success in itself. NTC is not reliable at all. They're among the worst and I wouldn't bother...

MacCoin · September 8, 2003 1:11AM

<< <i> wonder why it's not in one of the top three company's holders >>

ain't no wonder to me look how much it cost to have one of the top 3 to grade your coins compaired the smaller grading services. of course you get what you pay for.

RYK · September 8, 2003 1:12AM

Two words: NOT VERY!

jbsteven · September 8, 2003 1:17AM

VERY reliable in getting the grade incorrect EVERYTIME.

MacCoin · September 8, 2003 2:12AM

if I submitting 5 coin state quarter for $5 each with NTC= $12 each for PCGS pgcs=68/69 ntc=pr70

but thats a state quarter not a 1900s MS Barber Quarter I for sure woud want pcgs

braddick · September 8, 2003 2:16AM

NTC MS64= Commercial Unc

razorface1027 · September 8, 2003 4:49AM

To Frank....Thanks for the info. and the welcome. To all: I appreciate the feedback

JohnZ · September 8, 2003 4:55AM

NTC ranks down there with ACG. Totally 0% excellent. Do you have a pic of the coin, or an auction number so as we can take a gander at it?

ER · September 8, 2003 5:09AM

razorface, Welcome to the forum.

JohnZ,
I'm offended by your sig line.

razorface1027 · September 8, 2003 5:41AM

John; Thanks for the welcome! The babe in the picture...Gets a PR-71 as far as I'm concerned.

kamehameha00 · September 8, 2003 7:51AM

<< <i>John; Thanks for the welcome! The babe in the picture...Gets a PR-71 as far as I'm concerned.

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actually its a Pr-70 BB(big .......)

airplanenut · September 8, 2003 7:54AM

<< <i>actually its a Pr-70 BB(big .......)

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Big Brain? She looks smart

lordmarcovan · September 8, 2003 8:56PM

NTC= Numistrust Corporation.

Say it out loud:

N-U-M-I-S-T-R-U-S-T.

Sounds like New Mistrust to me.

Avoid them like the plague, would be my advice.

Mind you, I am not suggesting that there aren't (a few) nice coins hiding in nasty NTC holders, but like ACG, with whom they share worst-of-the-worst status, NTC is likely to not only overgrade but also to holder coins with hidden problems. Louis' "if you're lucky they won't body bag it" comment ain't so farfetched.

crito · September 8, 2003 9:25PM

Not half as bad as some people here would have you believe. They just don't like certain dealers who submit to them on a regular basis. When someone pointed out a member of the 'good guy' club was selling them too, they all started making excuses. He wasn't a "bottom feeder" because of his return policy, which makes the selling of NTC slabs OK, apparently. I wouldn't pay PCGS money for an NTC slab either, but that's just as much due to PCGS undergrading as NTC overgrading. You just have to adjust your bid accordingly.

How reliable is NTC grading company?

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