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toppsgun
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Will we see our first $1,000 common from 1965 tonight?
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The card is a pop. 3, if I'm not mistaken and there are a couple of big players already on the bidding list.
I also believe our long lost friend Davalillo is the owner of the only PSA MINT 9 of this card.
Very well maybe, duke already owns one of the 8's which he purchased for 300 in the big 65
auction blunder. After talking to a few collectors having bid napper failures they did have 4
figure bids in. The big boy is still not shown which I'm sure he'll be advised. Davillio is in the
bid history to the best of my knowledge or detective work.
So we shall see, but come on skip how about a real scan. I believe if there is a 9 which I wasn't
aware of skip I'm sure has it or has a lock 8 in his hands.
Thoughts?????????
Gator
<< <i>I am particularly intrigued by the bidding pattern on this card -- as it appears to me that one of the people who I thought already owned a Smith in top grade is an active bidder. >>
Marc,
You should know better than anyone about "protecting your investment" and "monopolizing the market". Aren't you the one that regularly bids on every high grade Schmidt card, regardless of whether you own it or not?
I am intrigued to see if I will win this one at $315.
JEB.
Perhaps I am guilty as charged. But I think, in general, that with Schmidt cards that I just like owning/upgrading as much as possible. Thus, to the extent that I may have a few PSA 9's of a certain card -- when I am able to upgrade to a PSA 10, I float everything back into the market. I personally have probably sold 50 1980 Topps #270 Schmidt PSA 9's -- about half of which were from personal submissions. Also, as I am probably the largest submitter of oddball / less important Schmidt cards, I have a much higher vested interest in supporting the market rather than monopolizing it. The only examples I can think of where I probably cost someone money was with Mr. Herbitzer on a 1975 Topps #70 PSA 9 a year and a half ago.
MS
Marc,
Glad were on the same page, not sure. I agree with Jeb might be an protect type deal but I dont
think with this card you'd have to. On the other hand only one of the big boys is left without to
the best of my knowledge. I dont see the owner of the 9 running him up for I dont' think that is
his style.
The finger points to skip for he has the answer I'm sure for I dont think he's hard up for cash
Gator
I know you sell off a lot of your cards. My comments were more tongue in cheek - all in fun. I just thought, coming from you, that statement was a case of the "pot calling the kettle black".
BTW, I still need that Puerto Rican sticker - do you have an extra PSA 9?
Where did Levi's PSA 7 go?
JEB.
Don't want to hijack this thread -- but I'll briefly respond to your question. Not sure where Levi's 1972 PR Sticker went, but I am assuming that he sold it close to his $800 asking price. That is good for the market, I think, in that it reinforces and helps move upwards the valuation of the notoriously off-center sticker. For what it is worth, whenever my schedule allows, I was able to privately obtain recently a Schmidt sticker from the set that I am fairly confident is worthy of an 8 NM/MT grade. I have no plans to keep the card once I have it graded -- but if it scores an 8, I might float it through an auction house as no PSA 8's or better have transacted in the last 4-5 years but for the PSA 9 I purchased. As the card is so darned difficult to find -- I was very happy to have helped out fellow board member Kendall obtain a PSA 5 copy (I believe that is its current grade). The card looked like a PSA 8 for sure -- but there was a slight crease/bend across the top that is apparent from an angle. One of the nicest eye appeal examples I have seen for sure. Also, as I have now seen perhaps two dozen of these cards around and about -- I am convinced that the dots on the face are a production problem and not a print dot. I have never seen any example of the card without the dots...
MS-
I agree with you...it is interesting who is bidding on the auction.
Also..neither of the 2nd or 3rd Current Finest Sets have the card in PSA 8...so this will get real interesting.
Davalillo has the PSA 8 (see correction)
Duke has a PSA 8 (was Mastros and before that Waynes)
Skipm. has a PSA 8 (which he is selling currently).
Where is the other 8?? Im thinking Davalillo may have both a 9 and a 8 already. Or it could be a number of guys who do not have sets registered...(Skipm. never had his set registered).
Should be fun.
John
Davalillo has the other 8. But where is the PSA 9? Some members say Davalillo has it...but who knows?
John
Skip has over half the set in 9 or did so at this point last year so my theory is he made a play on it.
I'm sure he would just not up and sell his 8.
Gator
I wouldn't think that these cards are just duplicates. It looks like he's breaking up the set. He has well over 400 psa 9's and almost all of the tough 8's. Good luck 1965 guys!
Wayne
Maybe this one will work.
Wayne
Thanks, well who know now.
Wayne-
Skipm. mentioned to me months ago that he was breaking up his set. He started his breakup through private transactions and now looks to have gone to eBay.
John
Technology cramps.
Then again, with cards in this grade, do you really need scans?
Why would he bust it up if he has 400 in PSA 9??? The set in all (or most) 9's would be worth more to me than the $$$. Maybe the wife figured out what he was up to and put a stop to it.
Wayne
He mentioned to me that he was going back to collecting unopened stuff heavily.
John
He's a wheeler dealer. Maybe he's worked a deal to trade his 9 for a butt-load of stuff that moves his other sets along. He needs the 8 worse than he needs the 9. After all it's a common worth .0009 registry points.
Davalillo does not have the 9....he just has the 8....I heard it straight from the horse's mouth.
That card does provide some good trade bait...so why not owe 2 of them...especially if you can afford it!
Anyone know the high bidder sufferjet. My first thoughts are that he is a friend of a collector on these boards. I have never seen him win a 1965 PSA 8 auction .... let alone the holy grail of commons.
The card sold for $700.00.
John
Also...keep in mind when you go to sell the set...the SMR looks at that card as an $18.00 card.
John
But SMR also looks at all of the following as $18/ea.
48 RAYMOND
181 LOUN/MCCABE-NATS RC
165 ELLSWORTH
105 SALMON
23 TIEFENAUER
45 McMILLIAN
152 ORTEGA
27 BERTELL
and each of these as $22:
501 GAGLIANO/RITTWAGE-Indians RC
498 STEPHENS
393 KIRKPATRICK
496 CUNNINGHAM
374 CARDENAL/SIMPSON RC
451 OWENS
480 HORLEN
443 #6 CHECKLIST
386 NORMAN RC
476 O'DELL
486 EGAN/ROGAN-ANGELS RC
503 GAGLIANO
562 MORAN
And how about these at $32:
589 LINZY/SCHRODER-Giants RC
566 BLANCO RC
580 HALL, JIMMIE
578 CARREON
559 BAILEY, ED
583 COVINGTON
535 KRALICK
523 BRUMLEY
I'll gladly sell you any of these at SMR, plus shipping of course.
Granted, it takes a lot of these to offset one $700 common, but that's why SMR is an average.
Thanks,
Tabe
www.tabe.nu
Population is the main factor driving the price of a common. After that...it is the team in which the player plays for (i.e. Yankees).
Toppsgun- As a self-proclaimed expert in the 1965's....those cards you just listed represent the most desirable and hard to find cards in the set. (Although the Blanco can sell well since its a Yankees rookies card...you just have to get lucky)
John
Tabe - #22 Charlie Smith (Mets) is almost always found off-center. Probably on the outer edge of the cutting sheet. Find a centered raw one, with sharp corners and go directly to "go" and collect (multiples) of $100.
Bas - my offer still stands. Luck has nothing to do with it. Just a great listing program and more than one (ignorant) bidder. Me? I'd rather take the sure thing and sell to the "self-proclaimed expert in the 1965's." He should be able to flip them for a few bucks profit.
Frankly...Im sick of looking at those particular PSA 8's. I would use them as trade bait and trade 3 for 1 to others just starting the set for a card that you need.
John