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Will we see our first $1,000 common from 1965 tonight?

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  • The card is a pop. 3, if I'm not mistaken and there are a couple of big players already on the bidding list.

    I also believe our long lost friend Davalillo is the owner of the only PSA MINT 9 of this card.
  • Guns,


    Very well maybe, duke already owns one of the 8's which he purchased for 300 in the big 65
    auction blunder. After talking to a few collectors having bid napper failures they did have 4
    figure bids in. The big boy is still not shown which I'm sure he'll be advised. Davillio is in the
    bid history to the best of my knowledge or detective work.

    So we shall see, but come on skip how about a real scan. I believe if there is a 9 which I wasn't
    aware of skip I'm sure has it or has a lock 8 in his hands.

    Thoughts?????????


    Gator
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    I am particularly intrigued by the bidding pattern on this card -- as it appears to me that one of the people who I thought already owned a Smith in top grade is an active bidder.
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.


  • << <i>I am particularly intrigued by the bidding pattern on this card -- as it appears to me that one of the people who I thought already owned a Smith in top grade is an active bidder. >>





    Marc,

    You should know better than anyone about "protecting your investment" and "monopolizing the market". Aren't you the one that regularly bids on every high grade Schmidt card, regardless of whether you own it or not? image


    I am intrigued to see if I will win this one at $315. image

    JEB.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Jeb:

    Perhaps I am guilty as charged. But I think, in general, that with Schmidt cards that I just like owning/upgrading as much as possible. Thus, to the extent that I may have a few PSA 9's of a certain card -- when I am able to upgrade to a PSA 10, I float everything back into the market. I personally have probably sold 50 1980 Topps #270 Schmidt PSA 9's -- about half of which were from personal submissions. Also, as I am probably the largest submitter of oddball / less important Schmidt cards, I have a much higher vested interest in supporting the market rather than monopolizing it. The only examples I can think of where I probably cost someone money was with Mr. Herbitzer on a 1975 Topps #70 PSA 9 a year and a half ago.

    MS
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.


  • Marc,

    Glad were on the same page, not sure. I agree with Jeb might be an protect type deal but I dont
    think with this card you'd have to. On the other hand only one of the big boys is left without to
    the best of my knowledge. I dont see the owner of the 9 running him up for I dont' think that is
    his style.

    The finger points to skip for he has the answer I'm sure for I dont think he's hard up for cashimage


    Gator
  • Marc,

    I know you sell off a lot of your cards. My comments were more tongue in cheek - all in fun. image I just thought, coming from you, that statement was a case of the "pot calling the kettle black".

    BTW, I still need that Puerto Rican sticker - do you have an extra PSA 9? image

    Where did Levi's PSA 7 go?

    JEB.
  • mikeschmidtmikeschmidt Posts: 5,756 ✭✭✭
    Jeb:

    Don't want to hijack this thread -- but I'll briefly respond to your question. Not sure where Levi's 1972 PR Sticker went, but I am assuming that he sold it close to his $800 asking price. That is good for the market, I think, in that it reinforces and helps move upwards the valuation of the notoriously off-center sticker. For what it is worth, whenever my schedule allows, I was able to privately obtain recently a Schmidt sticker from the set that I am fairly confident is worthy of an 8 NM/MT grade. I have no plans to keep the card once I have it graded -- but if it scores an 8, I might float it through an auction house as no PSA 8's or better have transacted in the last 4-5 years but for the PSA 9 I purchased. As the card is so darned difficult to find -- I was very happy to have helped out fellow board member Kendall obtain a PSA 5 copy (I believe that is its current grade). The card looked like a PSA 8 for sure -- but there was a slight crease/bend across the top that is apparent from an angle. One of the nicest eye appeal examples I have seen for sure. Also, as I have now seen perhaps two dozen of these cards around and about -- I am convinced that the dots on the face are a production problem and not a print dot. I have never seen any example of the card without the dots...
    I am actively buying MIKE SCHMIDT gem mint baseball cards. Also looking for any 19th century cabinets of Philadephia Nationals. Please PM with additional details.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    MS-

    I agree with you...it is interesting who is bidding on the auction. image


    Also..neither of the 2nd or 3rd Current Finest Sets have the card in PSA 8...so this will get real interesting.

    Davalillo has the PSA 8 (see correction)
    Duke has a PSA 8 (was Mastros and before that Waynes)
    Skipm. has a PSA 8 (which he is selling currently).

    Where is the other 8?? Im thinking Davalillo may have both a 9 and a 8 already. Or it could be a number of guys who do not have sets registered...(Skipm. never had his set registered).

    Should be fun.

    John
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭
    CORRECTION:

    Davalillo has the other 8. But where is the PSA 9? Some members say Davalillo has it...but who knows?

    John
  • John,

    Skip has over half the set in 9 or did so at this point last year so my theory is he made a play on it.
    I'm sure he would just not up and sell his 8.

    Gator
  • Davalillo has the other 8 but I don't believe that he has the 9. My guess is that it's sitting in someone's closet thinking that it's just another common. Skipm bought this one last year for $325 barely outbidding duke of mint. John is correct in that Duke bought my old psa 8. I wonder if Skipm isn't liquidating his set. [L=1965 Topps auctions by skipm.]http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewListedItems&userid=skipm.&sort=3&page=1&rows=25&since=7&rdir=0[/

    I wouldn't think that these cards are just duplicates. It looks like he's breaking up the set. He has well over 400 psa 9's and almost all of the tough 8's. Good luck 1965 guys!

    Wayne
    1955 Bowman Football
  • Skipm 65 auctions

    Maybe this one will work.

    Wayne
    1955 Bowman Football
  • Wayne,


    Thanks, well who know now.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Wayne-

    Skipm. mentioned to me months ago that he was breaking up his set. He started his breakup through private transactions and now looks to have gone to eBay.

    John
  • He could use a little scanner help.

  • Technology cramps.

    Then again, with cards in this grade, do you really need scans?



    Why would he bust it up if he has 400 in PSA 9??? The set in all (or most) 9's would be worth more to me than the $$$. Maybe the wife figured out what he was up to and put a stop to it.
  • Skip is probably one of the largest collectors of unopened packs out there. The 1965 was the only set he collects though. He is the kind of guy that if I found a card he needed I would just send it to him and just let him write me back a check for whatever he felt was fair. He is just absolutely one of the best people I have ever dealt with. I can't imagine why he would break up the set other than maybe he got bored with it. I can't wait to see what the Smith card brings.

    Wayne
    1955 Bowman Football
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    He mentioned to me that he was going back to collecting unopened stuff heavily.

    John
  • If Davalillo has the PSA 8, why is he the high bidder? I never knew him to have an interest in buying and selling cards, particular at many multiples of SMR.
    Ole Doctor Buck of the Popes of Hell


  • He's a wheeler dealer. Maybe he's worked a deal to trade his 9 for a butt-load of stuff that moves his other sets along. He needs the 8 worse than he needs the 9. After all it's a common worth .0009 registry points.
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Davalillo does not have the 9....he just has the 8....I heard it straight from the horse's mouth.

    That card does provide some good trade bait...so why not owe 2 of them...especially if you can afford it!

    Anyone know the high bidder sufferjet. My first thoughts are that he is a friend of a collector on these boards. I have never seen him win a 1965 PSA 8 auction .... let alone the holy grail of commons.

    The card sold for $700.00.

    John
  • $700 bucks for a common 8? why not downgrade to a 7, save $680+, and use that money to upgrade a few 8's to 9's? wouldnt this cost less and help with your registry score?
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Also...keep in mind when you go to sell the set...the SMR looks at that card as an $18.00 card.

    John

  • But SMR also looks at all of the following as $18/ea.

    48 RAYMOND
    181 LOUN/MCCABE-NATS RC
    165 ELLSWORTH
    105 SALMON
    23 TIEFENAUER
    45 McMILLIAN
    152 ORTEGA
    27 BERTELL

    and each of these as $22:

    501 GAGLIANO/RITTWAGE-Indians RC
    498 STEPHENS
    393 KIRKPATRICK
    496 CUNNINGHAM
    374 CARDENAL/SIMPSON RC
    451 OWENS
    480 HORLEN
    443 #6 CHECKLIST
    386 NORMAN RC
    476 O'DELL
    486 EGAN/ROGAN-ANGELS RC
    503 GAGLIANO
    562 MORAN

    And how about these at $32:

    589 LINZY/SCHRODER-Giants RC
    566 BLANCO RC
    580 HALL, JIMMIE
    578 CARREON
    559 BAILEY, ED
    583 COVINGTON
    535 KRALICK
    523 BRUMLEY

    I'll gladly sell you any of these at SMR, plus shipping of course.

    Granted, it takes a lot of these to offset one $700 common, but that's why SMR is an average.

  • TabeTabe Posts: 6,150 ✭✭✭✭✭
    Forgive my newbie ignorance (I collect 1962s, not 1965s), but what is it about this particular common that makes it so expensive? Is it a condition rarity? Or are there just not that many around?

    Thanks,

    Tabe
    www.tabe.nu
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Population is the main factor driving the price of a common. After that...it is the team in which the player plays for (i.e. Yankees).

    Toppsgun- As a self-proclaimed expert in the 1965's....those cards you just listed represent the most desirable and hard to find cards in the set. image (Although the Blanco can sell well since its a Yankees rookies card...you just have to get lucky)

    John


  • Tabe - #22 Charlie Smith (Mets) is almost always found off-center. Probably on the outer edge of the cutting sheet. Find a centered raw one, with sharp corners and go directly to "go" and collect (multiples) of $100.

    Bas - my offer still stands. Luck has nothing to do with it. Just a great listing program and more than one (ignorant) bidder. Me? I'd rather take the sure thing and sell to the "self-proclaimed expert in the 1965's." He should be able to flip them for a few bucks profit.image
  • BasiloneBasilone Posts: 2,492 ✭✭

    Frankly...Im sick of looking at those particular PSA 8's. I would use them as trade bait and trade 3 for 1 to others just starting the set for a card that you need.

    John
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