1972 Low Pops
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Well, I totally and completely struck out on a series of low pop '72s that finished on ebay today. I can't justify spending greater than 2-3 X SMR on these commons, especially with the recent thread about the large number of 70s submissions in the last 10 months. I've got to believe that some of these pops will increase in the next year or 2 to drive prices down a tad. As a matter of fact, I have several 72 low pops heading to Newport this week including a Paul Schall IA, Fuentes, & C. Jones IA that could get 8s. Fingers crossed! Here's a rundown on the recent ebay sales:
#22 Rob Gardner $18.50 11- 8s 1- 9
#32 Cleon Jones IA $33.03 10- 8s 0- 9
#292 Hal McRae IA $60.01 9- 8s 1- 9
#377 Terry Harmon $18.50 10- 8s 2- 9
#519 Ted Abernathy $33.06 11- 8s 0- 9
#533 Ralph Houk $26.00 9- 8s 1- 9
#670 Ken Holtzman $43.00 11- 8s 2-9
#467 Steve Kline $9.50 11- 8s 3- 9
Look at the last two. Basically the same pops and the Holtzman goes for so much more. I believe that is because of the reputation the Holtzman has for being such a tough card whereas Kline doesn't have that reputation.
#22 Rob Gardner $18.50 11- 8s 1- 9
#32 Cleon Jones IA $33.03 10- 8s 0- 9
#292 Hal McRae IA $60.01 9- 8s 1- 9
#377 Terry Harmon $18.50 10- 8s 2- 9
#519 Ted Abernathy $33.06 11- 8s 0- 9
#533 Ralph Houk $26.00 9- 8s 1- 9
#670 Ken Holtzman $43.00 11- 8s 2-9
#467 Steve Kline $9.50 11- 8s 3- 9
Look at the last two. Basically the same pops and the Holtzman goes for so much more. I believe that is because of the reputation the Holtzman has for being such a tough card whereas Kline doesn't have that reputation.
1972 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
1974 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
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1974 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
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As the receipiant of 3 of those cards, I was THRILLED to reduce my magic number to 33. Low pop's on the 72 set are tough now...just like they were 1 year ago...just like they are going to be a year from now.
The 72 set is enjoyable until you hit "the Wall"...
(just ask Frank, Dave R, Castaldi, Jarvi, Downey...Did I leave anybody out..???...)
Good Luck and don't get discouraged !!!
(BTW...I nabbed that cheap Kline card for $9.50...Life is good!!!.....)
Larry
email....emards4457@msn.com
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I started to bid on that Kline card, but didn't because I've got another on the way to PSA that could grade out at 8. It's a 7/8 slider. We'll see what comes of that. Congrats on getting the Kline so cheap!!
David
1974 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens
I hear you when you talk about hitting the 1972 Baseball "wall". A couple of years ago I was the second person to complete that monster of a set (After the great Frank "Chew" Bakka). Before I decided to sell my set I started to try to upgrade it.
OMG...Finding a bargin on ebay was very rare. Especially when you and Dave Read came along...lol. I think I got out at just the right time, with a full head of hair.
Carlos
Less than a 10 spot for the Kline card; that's obscene. My cost 6-18 months ago:
#22 Rob Gardner $25
#32 Cleon Jones IA $45
#292 Hal McRae IA $67.50
#377 Terry Harmon $13.50
#519 Ted Abernathy $54
#533 Ralph Houk $20
#670 Ken Holtzman $67.50
#467 Steve Kline $54
But that includes shipping!
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1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
By the way, didn't I get that Gardner from you? That's the worst centered card in my whole set! Humm, maybe an upgrade is needed there.
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1956 Topps PSA 8's+(active)
1969 Topps PSA 8's+(retired)
1972 Topps PSA 9's+(active)
1973 Topps PSA 9's+(retired)
1986 Topps PSA Perfect(active)
1997 Flair Legacy's(active)
I wouldn't doubt that the Gardner was from Larry. If I remember correctly... there is only 1 Gardner in PSA 9 and that one was on eBay about 18 months ago.... And I remember saying "No Mas" that night figuring that I'd go for the next on in another week or two... Pop is still 1... and I'm still waitin....
Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!
lynnfrank@earthlink.net
outerbankyank on eBay!
I remember that card.....I thought eBay would provide me with enough scratch to put a kid through college....NOT !!!...........Off center??? Here's what you can do...Drink a lot of beer, and stare deeply into any Kellogg's 3-D card...........Not only would the centering improve...You'll probably think you have 3 of 'em..(Sell the one in the middle....ha...)
FB...
Yeah...I still have that 9 in my set....(Seems like cards with the last diget of "2" always are tough....2.....22............. ) Someday I might give it to you.
Ohhhh...The good 'ole days.....
Larry
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
AbbaDad> Something to consider. . .if a 72T card is still low-pop/tough even after all those 70s submissions in the last year, doesn't that go to show how tough those cards really are? Sure the pop may increase, but relative to the other cards in the set they'll be just as tough. The other thing to consider is that population tells only part of the story. Take card# 582 - Expos Team. The pop is 9 in PSA8 and one PSA9. Doesn't sound that tough, right?
Well, lets look at the Expos Team card for a moment -
EO has the PSA9 of this card. . .so where are the nine PSA8s?
1 - FB has a PSA8 in his set
2 - EJ has a PSA8 in his set
3 - Dave Read has an 8 in his set
4 - Neil has one PSA8
5 - RC Snoopy has one PSA8
6 - John Constantino has a PSA8
7-9 - I happen to have the other three PSA8s
So. . .sure there are nine PSA8s - but none of them are currently "in play". As a result, you can expect any of them that do come to market to command a premuim. The situation is similar with #532 - Fred Kendall. Just by doing a little digging, you can get an idea how many examples can theoretically be "in play" and work down from there.
Mike
You make very good points as always. I do have an Expos team card that might get the 8 on the way to PSA, but there are several of the other low pop cards that I don't have in very good raw form and your points would be well advised to be heeded.
David
1974 Topps Baseball PSA 8+
Knowledge speaks, wisdom listens
What's it going to take to pry one of those 582's from 'ya....Hmmmmmm.....
(you know I have a large wife and family to support...)
Larry
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
Don't let your wife see that you put "large" before wife instead of family..... or we'll be working out deals with HER after the memorial service!
Sets - 1970, 1971 and 1972
Always looking for 1972 O-PEE-CHEE Baseball in PSA 9 or 10!
lynnfrank@earthlink.net
outerbankyank on eBay!
Mike
Well. . .I'm still waiting for a response to my request for a list of what you need. Send that to me and then I'm sure we can work something out.
Mike
maybe i have too much spare time on my hands.
i was just wondering what the record price was for a non star card was?
it won't be long till dsl comes up with the schaal in action card in a 9.
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Mike
i am sure you have seen this low pop also. were is eric?
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