1878-s pictures

TONEDDOLLARS

These two coins are the same coin. Someone posted on the subject of how you tilt the coin and lighting can make the coin appear different. I thought I would show these two pictures as an example of what I found you can do by tilting the coin and using different lighting.

jbsteven

I will take the first one!

it was me that posted the thread about the different angles and lights. makes you wonder when a toned Morgan on Ebay looks crappy that it might be that one in a million coin like yours.

airplanenut

That's a great example, however, it's not fair. To accurately protray your point, which is both valid and true, only one variable, either the angle or the lighting, can be changed- to change both does not allow for a true conclusion to be made as to which is the cause of the difference.

Jeremy

Catch22

Might be worth noting (for those of you who like to buy toners) that if you look at the scans, you can see more of the rim on the tilted coin and can tell that it has been manipulated to enhance what the seller thinks is a better image.

If I were attempting to aquire these coins based on images, I would need all the help I could get.

By the way, I realize this is not the case with this thread, I just mean in general.

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airplanenut

<< <i>Might be worth noting (for those of you who like to buy toners) that if you look at the scans, you can see more of the rim on the tilted coin and can tell that it has been manipulated to enhance what the seller thinks is a better image. >>

I don't follow you exactly- are you saying a tilted picture is noted when you see the rim on one end, but not the other, and that is manipulation? For nearly every toned coin I've seen, a good photograph isn't manipulation, but a combination of light and camera angles, simply because of the sensitivity of cameras and what they might (not) see if either angle is slightly off.

Jeremy

BigD5

Good example. I'll also bid on the first coin
Almost any toned coin has to be photographed at an angle, or at different angles to capture the color that your eye will see if you were holding the coin in your hand, and rotating it under a light. I never saw anyone look at a coin flat on a table and make assessments of the coins attributes. It doesn't happen. We all (or we all should!) rotate the coin in a circular motion under a light to get a good look at the surfaces. Now to reproduce that "look" with a picture........that's the tough part.
Nice pic's Toneddollars.

Catch22

Airplane, sorry about the confusion. I didn't communicate what I wanted to say very well.

My point was that when buying coins based on images, I need all the clues and help I can get to be comfortable. As indicated by the above images, tilting and lighting can either enhance or degrade the appearance of a coin.

If I were to be in the market for high dollar toners, I would want several images, including tilted images and would like to be able to tell which is which.

gsaguy

Amazing comparison toneddollars. Neat example.

GSAGUY

P.S. That's a pretty cool coin BTW.