It's top all bids bidding at its finest...with sniping...there's really no way to gauge interest level until it's too late. I spoke with a guy who won a card last night that had misset his bid and couldn't retract because of EBAY's new rules. It can get away from you if you're not careful.
The card is the lowest pop card in the entire set! Only 2 psa 7's, with 4 graded 8. One 9 qulifier.
I compare this with the 54 topps Wade or Woodling cards. Both sell routinely in the 2-3k range in 8. I bet a thread, with the title,( "Which set has a card in psa 8 that sells for 20-30x smr routinely".), was posted, we would find this kind of bidding to be fairly common.
I agree IF the population report is a true gauge of scarcity AND the set is popular enough to make a market when time to sell. I don't know enough about this issue to know if this is a wise purchase or not.
My response was to Alan's statement "It can get away from you if you're not careful." I would rephrase it to "It can get away from you if you bid more than you are willing to pay".
What does it really matter what we think anyway? More power to anyone that has the jack to buy what they want, at a price that also makes them happy. And if they have enough jack to not worry about the price, good for them also.
Where have you gone Dave Vargha CU turns its lonely eyes to you What's the you say, Mrs Robinson Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
I was telling my wife this card would go for 3,000. I was shocked that the PSA 7 that evening went for under 30 bucks. Personally, I'd rather spend $3,000 buying 4 raw nrmt complete sets and take my chances of pulling a PSA 8, but that's just me.
More power to those who can spend $3000 on PSA 8 basketball commons. Buyer like this can afford to bid whatever without ever having to worry about the value of the cards or the sets they are purchasing. If I bought the card, I know that I would regret this purchase for years to come.
People have simply not submitted many of this card. This card is not particularly tough in high grades. Four cards out of fifteen are PSA 8s.
Card #4 is certainly not a shortprint. Other cards from the 1970 set have upwards of 400 examples graded. Almost 12000 cards from the 1970 set have been graded by PSA with the majority receivign very strong grades. Collectors simply did not think it was worthwhile to send a common like this one for grading.
Now that collectors see that it is worthwhile to submit commons such as this one, we are going to see commons like this usbmitted by the truckload. There will be dramatic increases in the numbers submitted and the number of higher-grade specimens and the prices are going to drop dramatically.
Do you think with all this Registry "press"..... ...................Maybe a few more will hit the streets soon..........Hmmmm...(Horlen comes to mind.....)
Larry
I LOVE FANCY CURRENCY, pretty girls, Disney Dollars, pretty girls, MPC's, ..did I mention pretty girls???
I did understand you were responding to Alan's post. I was just trying to think of a scenario in which a price like 3k is the norm for an 8.
Your respose of "what does it really matter what we think anyway, is the truth...
That card went for 100x SMR. Now that's insane. I actually looked at the $100.00+ for a 9. The 8 is $30.00 in the SMR.
Dhjacks, I see your in the top 10 on the registry for that set. Do you know who won the card???? If It's the guy in #1, needing one card for 100% and having a GPA and set rating at max. for the set, what a way to finish...
By the way, it is a short print. It also often comes with a large print smudge (lack of ink in the shape of a hanging banner next to Mullen's head). I've bought a couple of that card raw (mixed in with small lots). I have one that will probably be a 7 (it could be a really weak 8). Except for the short-prints, the prices of 8's have been coming down lately. The 9's still command a pretty nice premium. You'll usually find over half of the top 10 in the registry have 'updated' recently at any given time. It's nice see the activity.
For three grand I could get a hair transplant and get my teeth whitened. Then, I wouldn't have to sit inside collecting baseball cards. I could go out and track sophisticated beaver up and down bar boulevard.
The second highest bidder on this card already owns a PSA 8 of this card. So he either was protecting his investment or trying to upgrade his 8 to a better 8. (he has the 2nd highest set on the registry)
The owner of the #1 set on the 1970 topps registry was the 3rd highest bidder. He may or may not already owns a PSA 8 of this card.
Everybody who owns that card in PSA 8 must know that as soon as a PSA 9 is graded, their 8 will lose at least $1000 in value. Of course if they spent that much on an 8, they probably don't care about money.
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The only way I would spend that much if CSCO were back in the 80s!
Regards,
Alan
CU turns its lonely eyes to you
What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
The card is the lowest pop card in the entire set! Only 2 psa 7's, with 4 graded 8. One 9 qulifier.
I compare this with the 54 topps Wade or Woodling cards. Both sell routinely in the 2-3k range in 8.
I bet a thread, with the title,( "Which set has a card in psa 8 that sells for 20-30x smr routinely".), was posted, we would find this kind of bidding to be fairly common.
just my 2 cts.
mx'er
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1961 topps 100%
I agree IF the population report is a true gauge of scarcity AND the set is popular enough to make a market when time to sell. I don't know enough about this issue to know if this is a wise purchase or not.
My response was to Alan's statement "It can get away from you if you're not careful." I would rephrase it to "It can get away from you if you bid more than you are willing to pay".
What does it really matter what we think anyway? More power to anyone that has the jack to buy what they want, at a price that also makes them happy. And if they have enough jack to not worry about the price, good for them also.
CU turns its lonely eyes to you
What's the you say, Mrs Robinson
Vargha bucks have left and gone away?
hey hey hey
hey hey hey
Card #4 is certainly not a shortprint. Other cards from the 1970 set have upwards of 400 examples graded. Almost 12000 cards from the 1970 set have been graded by PSA with the majority receivign very strong grades. Collectors simply did not think it was worthwhile to send a common like this one for grading.
Now that collectors see that it is worthwhile to submit commons such as this one, we are going to see commons like this usbmitted by the truckload. There will be dramatic increases in the numbers submitted and the number of higher-grade specimens and the prices are going to drop dramatically.
but not for the vietnam war....but for.....
rolling papers!
Do you think with all this Registry "press".....
...................Maybe a few more will hit the streets soon..........Hmmmm...(Horlen comes to mind.....)
Larry
email....emards4457@msn.com
CHEERS!!
I did understand you were responding to Alan's post. I was just trying to think of a scenario in which a price like 3k is the norm for an 8.
Your respose of "what does it really matter what we think anyway, is the truth...
That card went for 100x SMR. Now that's insane. I actually looked at the $100.00+ for a 9. The 8 is $30.00 in the SMR.
Dhjacks, I see your in the top 10 on the registry for that set. Do you know who won the card???? If It's the guy in #1, needing one card for 100% and having a GPA and set rating at max. for the set, what a way to finish...
mx'er
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1961 topps 100%
By the way, it is a short print. It also often comes with a large print smudge (lack of ink in the shape of a hanging banner next to Mullen's head).
I've bought a couple of that card raw (mixed in with small lots). I have one that will probably be a 7 (it could be a really weak 8). Except for the short-prints, the prices of 8's have been coming down lately. The 9's still command a pretty nice premium. You'll usually find over half of the top 10 in the registry have 'updated' recently at any given time. It's nice see the activity.
Satan
The second highest bidder on this card already owns a PSA 8 of this card. So he either was protecting his investment or trying to upgrade his 8 to a better 8. (he has the 2nd highest set on the registry)
The owner of the #1 set on the 1970 topps registry was the 3rd highest bidder. He may or may not already owns a PSA 8 of this card.
PSAtan- you are cracking me up.
John