1961 Lincoln cent-doubling of date

1907Quarter

Just looking at my 20th century type collection and the Lincoln memorial 1961, with a very strong date doubling. I looked in Cherrypickers guide-no mention. is this common for the date?

legacycoin

I'm not aware of any major doubled dies for 1961 Lincolns; my first guess would be that it's strike doubling, which would be a relatively common error.

1907Quarter

could you elaborate?

grip

Better yet,a scan.Al

richbeat

The only ones I'm aware of are one DDO and one DDR, for the proof cents.

coppercoins

There are a few doubled die obverse, both for business strike and proofs, then there are a whole host of doubled die reverses, tripled die reverses, and even a quadrupled die reverse. For 1961P alone (business and proof) there are over 40 different doubled dies known - oh so little they actually publish in the books.

Anyhow, if you have bold doubling on your coin in the date, there's a 0.000001% chance it's a genuine doubled die. Almost all of the coins I've ever seen from that era brought to my attention as "bold doubling in the date" are typical machine doubling.

Added: For some education in the difference between hub doubled dies and machine damage doubling (MDD), take a look at this thread. Sorry, I took the images down some time ago. I'll have to find them and re-upload them so the thread will make more sense.

rollmeupAbe

Did you ever have a chance to post an image ? I have a roll of 1961 D cents that I was going through today and there definitely appear to be signs of doubling, especially on the "O" of God. Also present on the face and neck of Lincoln but this sometimes appears to be machine doubling.

coppercoins

<< <i>Did you ever have a chance to post an image ? I have a roll of 1961 D cents that I was going through today and there definitely appear to be signs of doubling, especially on the "O" of God. Also present on the face and neck of Lincoln but this sometimes appears to be machine doubling. >>



The doubling on the O of GOD is master die doubling - well over half of all 1961 cents including the proofs show this doubling.

JRocco

I have to agree with C.D. 100% in that if its bold doubling its more than likely MD. When you first see it your heart kind of skips a beat --- then look again. Some examples of strike doubling are really cool though even if they don't carry a premium. We all can't own Mona Lisa's but some paintings are just as nice.

millennium

<< <i>We all can't own Mona Lisa's but some paintings are just as nice >>



The problem is I am the "Velvet Elvis" collector of the coin world...

merz2

Chuck is of course quite right.It is very common on the 1961.Most people don't even notice it though.

DMWJR

For the 1961 proofs, the master die was doubled, so actually every proof 1961 is a DDO. I'm assuming you are looking at a mint state. Pics would be great. Lincoln varieties are always fun whether they are rare or not.

rollmeupAbe

C.D. - your picture is my exact coin. You've busted another bubble for me but as always the expertise is very much appreciated.

coppercoins

Don't be discouraged by the doubling in GOD, as this is present on most of the doubled dies as well...but to have a doubled die you would have to be able to show additional doubling along with the doubling in GOD. Most of the doubled die obverses I have listed for 1961 show this doubling in addition to the doubling that make them doubled dies.

Prometheus183

It's a farse. Send it to me for proper disposal

Craig